tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post8922696141604345259..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Open thread on episode #696Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger149125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-55267150642152870982011-02-25T14:38:37.876-06:002011-02-25T14:38:37.876-06:00LOL....
Book 'em , Dano......LOL....<br /> Book 'em , Dano......Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06500965525538784390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-4881941675169458452011-02-25T11:05:33.318-06:002011-02-25T11:05:33.318-06:00Christie Luv may get part of her wish. The Mark se...Christie Luv may get part of her wish. The Mark segment has just been posted on the Richard Dawkins website and Richard himself wrote in and said (in effect) "Who is this Matt character you Americans seem to know about?" This was followed by a large number of comments regarding the greatness of Matt and the entire AEx gang. One commenter suggested that Richard Dawkins should call in himself. This will be great exposure.EEGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03736399082518510895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-65713096538742340122011-02-22T22:07:14.347-06:002011-02-22T22:07:14.347-06:00What Matt said to Mark is one of the reasons I wis...What Matt said to Mark is one of the reasons I wish the Atheist Experience is more well known than Richard Dawkins. He is a good guy but not nearly as good at debates, and if the Atheist Experience was more well known, there would certainly be more Atheists out there.Christie Luvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06572105943402522021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-70196142010869611812011-02-19T23:07:02.204-06:002011-02-19T23:07:02.204-06:00In a way I feel bad for guys like Mark. These ar...In a way I feel bad for guys like Mark. These are people who have never really questioned their faith or investigated their own belief system, so as such cant really defend it. All they know is that they are upset, they feel they have been wronged by the simple fact that other people don't believe as they do. <br /><br />So then they sputter and cast about, looking for ways out of a conversation they had no business being in. I would feel for them. Sorta. If they didn't call in the first place.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03207213134040728576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-82039555239712707622011-02-19T22:14:51.819-06:002011-02-19T22:14:51.819-06:00I loved jeff's rant starting with why do they ...I loved jeff's rant starting with why do they want to be their enemy. Good tact i thought. However i felt earlier in the show he came across a bit rude to some of the atheist callers. It was a bit of a fuck off and lets get to the theists attitude. Which makes it seem as though hes just their for a damn good argument rather than sharing points of view. If thats the case fair enough, just an observationUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09581040765283125021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-64636981039761281562011-02-18T09:32:22.293-06:002011-02-18T09:32:22.293-06:00@chortletron
I know I should be on the other thre...@chortletron<br /><br />I know I should be on the other thread, but this is slightly off-topic, anyway. As for your point about "not linking and being able to defend" a claim, I suspect that there is also a practical matter to it as well. <br /><br />By making the opponent articulate an argument, you are requiring that person to put in an amount of work on par with what you are putting into refuting the argument. You're also requiring the opponent to focus on a single argument and evaluate that claim completely, before moving on to the next argument. <br /><br />Linking seems to be the text equivalent of the Gish Gallup. One person spends 30 seconds linking to a slew of questionable claims, with end result being that the atheist doesn't have the time to debunk them all. (Or a Denial Of Service attack, to use another analogy).Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14299046445235601258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-72223523430770287352011-02-18T02:46:40.080-06:002011-02-18T02:46:40.080-06:00I couldn't listen to the episode earlier, but ...I couldn't listen to the episode earlier, but now I have to praise (pardon the word) the work that was done here. On an earlier episode (the latest Jen and Tracie one) I said that they had the best call ever and I still think this is true in some way, but now I have to say Matt had one of the best speeches ever in 696.<br /><br />First of all, I'm probably one of the persons who enjoys the most Jeff's passionate talk against people who believe he deserves to go to hell. He didn't do the same in this one, so it wasn't as fun, but let me say he couldn't have done better in this case. It was put well enough that even some Christians should understand that they're a bad person when they say things like that. Then Matt's speech. I don't know what to say to explain how much I liked it. Not only was it a perfect representation of what I think and probably lots of us think (although we're not completely an "us"), only said in a much better way, but I also think it was one of the strongest case for atheism I ever heard, explaining how you have every reason to be one and no reason to believe in a God. And I don't mind people being "dicks" usually, but that wasn't the case at all here.<br /><br />It was strong, yet simple and said in a nice enough way that I believe some Christians must have been convinced by it. Even the guy sounded nervous and I'm pretty sure he realized you had a point. The only valid thing in his beliefs is not the supernatural, it's only the community at church that he could get many other potentially better ways. He probably won't admit it to people at church and he was probably in denial to himself from the second he hung up, but it's impossible that the logical part of his brain hasn't at least been challenged a bit by this.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17275648513956171280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-33951147616815526542011-02-17T22:30:57.186-06:002011-02-17T22:30:57.186-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.MikeAdAstraSmithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00020689765531487941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-34256940390942703632011-02-17T15:01:26.088-06:002011-02-17T15:01:26.088-06:00http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2011/02/in-w...<a href="http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2011/02/in-which-mike-demonstrates-once-and-for.html" rel="nofollow">http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2011/02/in-which-mike-demonstrates-once-and-for.html</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-83754471930805063362011-02-17T14:08:49.050-06:002011-02-17T14:08:49.050-06:00A bit of a n00bish question: I don't know wher...A bit of a n00bish question: I don't know where the other thread is. Was it set up? Can I see?pikeminnowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08905348669575691106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-49115489534000675342011-02-17T06:22:32.382-06:002011-02-17T06:22:32.382-06:00the best part about that youtube link that mike as...the best part about that youtube link that mike ask us to watch is that you can't comment on it. Because of course Christians just can't put up with other people's opinion. Cowards!!libramoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06128605795497625294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-64195813949539946052011-02-17T00:28:50.002-06:002011-02-17T00:28:50.002-06:00"The reason your spam filter was going off is..."The reason your spam filter was going off is because Mike was spamming the thread with stupid comments."<br /><br />It's funny how obvious that is, but we still gotta say it 'cuz guy doesn't understand that we're NOT in a chat room.Adam Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11921052992554517589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-23298914051911906102011-02-16T20:10:56.832-06:002011-02-16T20:10:56.832-06:00The reason your spam filter was going off is becau...The reason your spam filter was going off is because Mike <i>was spamming</i> the thread with stupid comments.Sparrowhawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16520765821903563677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-44517151474688468252011-02-16T19:10:01.687-06:002011-02-16T19:10:01.687-06:00Kalam gets you nowhere close to god. The absolute...Kalam gets you nowhere close to god. The absolute most that you can get from kalam is that maybe there is a being that created the universe. This being could however, be powerless in every other endeavor. It could create the universe yet not be able to change anything about it or know of it's inhabitants. It would still fulfill the kalam argument without being what you would call god.EJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16366472621644138970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-21439879763403352562011-02-16T17:53:59.753-06:002011-02-16T17:53:59.753-06:00to get my 2 cents in. When Martin said it was a f...to get my 2 cents in. When Martin said it was a fail to link to arguments instead of making them yourself. I'd have to make the point that it's only a fail if the person can't discuss and defend the argument himself. Defending his position using someone else's argument that he understands and agrees with is more then okay, it infuriates me when others pull the "you can't think for yourself" because you quote someone, or bring up a common argument. It's not like you can go back in time and posit the argument first.<br />But Im sure Martin meant "you posting links without trying to defend them is a fail."<br /><br />So far we've got a copy and paste of the Kalam Cosmological Argument? Only Evidence so far, right?<br />well, here's several good "POWNS" of our own.<br />http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=KalamUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06148258479002685369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-38322308039572276882011-02-16T17:26:30.037-06:002011-02-16T17:26:30.037-06:00Okay. I've cleared all 50 or so posts out the...Okay. I've cleared all 50 or so posts out the spam queue now, which is going to result in a lot of old posts having duplicate comments, but whatever.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-15423871679069041572011-02-16T17:22:21.012-06:002011-02-16T17:22:21.012-06:00Man, you're right Martin. I had no idea that ...Man, you're right Martin. I had no idea that our damn spam filter was being so overzealous. Now that I look at it, it has piled in lots of stuff that I thought was just disappearing.<br /><br />The good news is that Google supposedly analyzes your past spam/not spam preferences, and so once I release all those comments it should not keep eliminating them. But in the future, it might be a good idea to keep a better eye on the spam filter and rescue stuff that is not by D**** M****.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-84074652590220387472011-02-16T17:20:19.541-06:002011-02-16T17:20:19.541-06:00We're not trying to shut you up, you petulant ...We're not trying to shut you up, you petulant infant. Kazim is in fact going out of his way to set up a new thread for you to comment in where you might not get hit by the spam guard, and I've been removing your comments from the spam filter so they can appear here.<br /><br />Jeez, the problem with talking to Christians is you can never get past their arrested adolescence.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-53945535649326204532011-02-16T17:18:21.179-06:002011-02-16T17:18:21.179-06:00Mike: after all, i have never lost a debate.
Prob...Mike: <i>after all, i have never lost a debate.</i><br /><br />Probably because you have never had one. Now that you're having one, let's see how you're doing: Kalam = refuted. First cause = refuted. Zero for two, so far. Hmmm.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-69487854817899327792011-02-16T17:17:31.562-06:002011-02-16T17:17:31.562-06:00you can try to shut me up but eventually the truth...you can try to shut me up but eventually the truth gets out.MikeAdAstraSmithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00020689765531487941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-69365916624887246402011-02-16T17:16:49.958-06:002011-02-16T17:16:49.958-06:00Mike, please try posting on this thread instead.Mike, please try posting on <a href="http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2011/02/in-which-mike-demonstrates-once-and-for.html" rel="nofollow">this thread</a> instead.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-12658183554257857792011-02-16T17:15:24.385-06:002011-02-16T17:15:24.385-06:00Also, keep in mind that if you're trying to po...Also, keep in mind that if you're trying to post something large, there's a size limit, of sorts. So breaking it up into smaller chunks helps.JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-83621967473126605592011-02-16T17:14:55.072-06:002011-02-16T17:14:55.072-06:00A lot of Mike's comments are getting caught by...A lot of Mike's comments are getting caught by Blogger's spam guards. I'm releasing them fast as I can.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-26689739722095354532011-02-16T17:13:54.198-06:002011-02-16T17:13:54.198-06:00No no, I think the blog really is acting screwy. ...No no, I think the blog really is acting screwy. I'm noticing it too. Hang on, I'm going to set up a new thread and see if posting there will fix the problem.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-82156365277099765992011-02-16T17:12:48.436-06:002011-02-16T17:12:48.436-06:00Then how is it we can see your posts?Then how is it we can see your posts?JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.com