tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post7689276280376259444..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Something to read with your Monday morning coffeeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-60816543017768691572010-09-09T02:44:54.118-05:002010-09-09T02:44:54.118-05:00Just an idea: one of you guys should first get a d...Just an idea: one of you guys should first get a disguise and only then try to invite him to a debate. If you look silly enough, he may accept. And when he can't run away anymore, you can humiliate him the way he deserves. (That means A LOT of humiliation... At least five years of it uninterrupted.)ernobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13872778498473437876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-27911205456691162472010-09-09T02:25:44.882-05:002010-09-09T02:25:44.882-05:00Very nice work, Nathan.
I too, have previously d...Very nice work, Nathan. <br /><br />I too, have previously done some point by point refutations of the writings of Ray Comfort, one of which can be found here:<br /><br />http://magx01.blogspot.com/2010/05/ray-comfort-comfortably-inept-and.html<br /><br />I tend to get angry when discussing Ray, however, so my refutations end up being half rants as well. <br /><br />I actually did an entire week (well, almost, I fell a couple days short iirc) dedicated to pwning Ray Comfort. The series of blogs in 'Ray Comfort Week' were written in the last week of July/very beginning of August of this year. <br /><br />Having written about him several times, and having commented on his vacuous, smarmy, and embarassing blog several times, I think I have reached my endpoint. I don't believe I have the intestinal fortitude to spend much more time, if any at all, writing about, or to, this joke/asshole/liar/scumbag. <br /><br />It's amazing how adept he is at appearing to listen when he's really just waiting for his turn to speak. I mean, he has been corrected on so many specific points so many damn times, often right to his face, yet he can be seen/heard/read repeating one of his go to rhetorical belches which acts as though those corrections never happened. <br /><br />His strawman conception of evolution by natural selection, for example, has been corrected a gazillion times, with all sorts of different approaches and through various mediums, and still he falls back on the same old misconceptions. <br /><br />And what kills me is this guy is making BANK doing this. He makes more money in a month than many honest, hard working people make in a year, and all h does is lie and deceive for a living. It's amazing that the culture in America permits this, when he's so incredibly, insanely, and easily demonstrated to be, DEAD WRONG on so much of what he says. <br /><br />He also commands an audience, and engenders all sorts of respect and admiration, by people who put their trust in him, and people like him. These people wield such tremendously understated power over people, and it's all predicated on lies and deceit. <br /><br />It's hard not to think of this and just despair....<br /><br />And I bet he doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone he tries to save in the first place. You can see clips of him street proselytizing on youtube. It seems as though he's more concerned with 'winning' against a detractor/skeptic than he is 'saving their souls.' It's amazing how callously and calmly he can inform someone that they are going to hell for eternity when they die. He might as well be informing them that their shoes are untied. <br /><br />You'd think that if people like him <i>really</i> believed that, they'd be showing signs of despair. They'd be frantic in their endeavour to 'save' us, and, really, they should be gathering <i>en masse</i> to knindly ask their supposedly loving, moral, parental figure and creator god to, I dunno....<i>change the damn rules</i> so people need not needlessly suffer?<br /><br />That's just me though...magx01https://www.blogger.com/profile/14831638782847911405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-66547006858211761632010-09-09T01:34:07.688-05:002010-09-09T01:34:07.688-05:00@Jeffrey
It's much worse than that. Really, t...@Jeffrey<br /><br />It's much worse than that. Really, the thing we need absolution for is not our little everyday crimes. Hypothetically, they could be avoided. A person could go through life not committing any sin, and still go to hell.<br /><br />The big bad crime that all humans are guilty of is Original Sin. In other words, we are guilty simply because we exist.Lukashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01844177654412625852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-63761828955673827412010-09-08T00:12:02.677-05:002010-09-08T00:12:02.677-05:00Am I the only who is both entertained and disguste...Am I the only who is both entertained and disgusted that both Kirk and Ray both consistently tell people that they must be complicit in a 2000 year old murder to be absolved for lesser crimes?<br /><br />It never fails to amaze me that people find the entire concept somehow feasible...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540521316350053184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-60184337882356471272010-09-07T10:07:38.494-05:002010-09-07T10:07:38.494-05:00I recently took a stab at Ray myself, just for kic...I recently took a stab at Ray myself, just for kicks and giggles. <br /><br />I answered his questions that atheists can't answer. <br /><br />Peace of cake actually.<br /><br />http://advocatusatheist.blogspot.com/2010/07/questions-atheists-cant-answer-answered.htmlTristan Vickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05348780254008374268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-87828486629532275102010-09-07T04:42:00.103-05:002010-09-07T04:42:00.103-05:00For AETV you got a good theist last cos you were t...For AETV you got a good theist last cos you were trollin it up with "I've never met a pastor that wasn't a parasite on society". More of this and a bit of "good cop, bad cop" role playing will make the theists line up to call.Dances_with_the_beasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12166734317886639473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-45355705059551628312010-09-06T21:59:16.213-05:002010-09-06T21:59:16.213-05:00I haven't heard from those guys in awhile, whe...I haven't heard from those guys in awhile, when is the next "debate". Thanks for the post, I am going to follow Nate's blog...good stuff!Sillysighbeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18171900968652869372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-81239433728629096182010-09-06T21:14:44.743-05:002010-09-06T21:14:44.743-05:00Thunderf00t had a chat with Ray and had posted it ...Thunderf00t had a chat with Ray and had posted it on his Youtube channel. Thunderf00t told him it was just going to be a discussion, not a debate. After a little prodding, Ray accepted. Free of charge.<br /><br />Either it was because Ray knew that it wasn't going to be a heated debate or that he knew Thunderf00t was not a skilled debater.<br /><br />I think Ray had seen some of your videos on Youtube and realizes that you guys will just humiliate him. He would rather talk with someone with less skills.Jarahdaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09727915209401982737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-35766877340748094772010-09-06T18:53:37.478-05:002010-09-06T18:53:37.478-05:00Wow... these guys (Comfort and Cameron) are even d...Wow... these guys (Comfort and Cameron) are even dumber than I'd thought. :-OMatthew Blanchettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829163626544348823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-23203728049150311832010-09-06T18:31:13.504-05:002010-09-06T18:31:13.504-05:00Martin, thank you for the promotion. It means a gr...Martin, thank you for the promotion. It means a great deal to me, as a huge fan of the show and the other media you put out. <br /><br />A minute-by-minute deconstruction is exactly what I had in mind for this episode and possibly some others that strike my interest. Like Matt, my intestinal fortitude is high when it comes to such things. I subject myself on a regular basis to religious resources of all kinds (literature, radio, television programming, etc. to the extent that I'm confident nothing will be misrepresented or taken out of context.<br /><br />This is why I love communities such as yours and invaluable resources such as TAE to fall back on for much-needed proverbial breaths of fresh air.Nathan Dickey: Journeyman Heretichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17030227316633137712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-13037774332020686532010-09-06T17:23:56.494-05:002010-09-06T17:23:56.494-05:00"learn the forgotten biblical principle of by..."learn the forgotten biblical principle of bypassing the intellect"<br /><br />or... maybe it could stay forgotten?<br /><br />and then I can forget the whole banana 'atheists nightmare' thing...<br /><br />oh well.GPL(urker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02647145761092941776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-15710925808759603112010-09-06T15:19:15.685-05:002010-09-06T15:19:15.685-05:00I see I have lots of reading to do.
Bypassing th...I see I have lots of reading to do. <br /><br />Bypassing the intellect? Wow! If at least they were BSing by saying they were completing it or something. There is nobody more despicable than a thick man who is proud of it.Guillaumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12376749604845793465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-45887796340726901662010-09-06T14:04:20.911-05:002010-09-06T14:04:20.911-05:00Matt, you have far more intestinal fortitude for s...Matt, you have far more intestinal fortitude for subjecting yourself to that than I do!Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-75651698958107988722010-09-06T13:49:26.200-05:002010-09-06T13:49:26.200-05:00Or, you could do a minute-by-minute critique of in...Or, you could do a minute-by-minute critique of individual episodes as I've done <a href="http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=The_Beauty_of_a_Broken_Spirit%E2%80%94Atheism_(Way_of_the_Master)" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Evolution_(Way_of_the_Master)" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=The_Firefighter_(Way_of_the_Master)" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Matt D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06865398618141711897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-57902414041503712052010-09-06T12:01:54.771-05:002010-09-06T12:01:54.771-05:00Weeks later, we were told by a reader that Ray was...<i>Weeks later, we were told by a reader that Ray was once again repeating the whole "Sure I'd love to call them, but they haven't invited me!" thing, which makes him nothing less than a blatant, bald-faced lying sack of shit.</i><br /><br />Comfort is lying on more than one level at that. What he is really saying is, "Sure I'd love to call them, but they haven't <i>offered me any money</i>!"Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802892952926113605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-69822228890660530912010-09-06T11:06:24.057-05:002010-09-06T11:06:24.057-05:00Righty-o. The whole "bypass the intellect&quo...Righty-o. The whole "bypass the intellect" thing is something that causes me no end of hilarity. If you're going to come right out and say that the best way to sell people Jesus is to bypass their intellect, you're admitting some embarrassing stuff right off the bat. Such as, your religion is either unintellectual or just plain anti-intellectual, plus you lack sufficient intellect to defend it from people giving you inteelectual criticisms. Webster's <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intellect" rel="nofollow">defines</a> <i>intellect</i> as "the capacity for knowledge" and "the capacity for rational or intelligent thought especially when highly developed." Ray and Kirk are essentially stating that Christian belief is antithetical to intelligent thought and the capacity for knowledge itself. In other words, to be a Christian <i>you cannot and must not think</i>.<br /><br />I guess that's worked pretty well for <i>them</i>. But why would they think I'd be buying?Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-89892967498050578432010-09-06T10:17:06.346-05:002010-09-06T10:17:06.346-05:00"Instead, you'll learn the forgotten bibl...<i>"Instead, you'll learn the forgotten biblical principle of bypassing the intellect (the place of argument) and speaking directly to the conscience (the place of the knowledge of right and wrong) — the way Jesus did"</i><br /><br />Every time I forget just how duplicitous these two are, I always come back to that statement.Pombolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16735540265123793662noreply@blogger.com