tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post7291416226031819437..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Presenting the most offensive email we've ever gottenUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger188125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-31474299325508339212011-09-02T08:28:35.736-05:002011-09-02T08:28:35.736-05:00I guess I should add, to avoid Martin's wrath,...I guess I should add, to avoid Martin's wrath, I don't mean to say that makes it ok (even though I didn't call it a Poe, which isn't exactly the same thing as a joke). Even if a joke, it's still offensive.TrevorMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18066857498499368327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-29909382954970727702011-09-02T08:20:42.113-05:002011-09-02T08:20:42.113-05:00That has to be a joke, it's just too absurd. W...That has to be a joke, it's just too absurd. When he switches from advice to telling her she'll be ugly in 15 years like all middle aged women, I couldn't help but laugh. There's no way any sane person could write that, and I don't think an insane person could compose such a detailed and grammatically message.TrevorMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18066857498499368327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-70195326982381499562011-01-02T12:27:24.200-06:002011-01-02T12:27:24.200-06:00Am I the only person who can barely understand 5% ...Am I the only person who can barely understand 5% of the disemvoweled text?Petr Kudláčekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13815604888905970321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-34367282837684684162011-01-01T19:56:59.643-06:002011-01-01T19:56:59.643-06:00The best thing about emails like this are the fact...The best thing about emails like this are the fact that it gives Martin a chance to air his rapier wit on them. I get such a kick out of his responses...keep it coming Martin!Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06486112603730939550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-87095898572131974752011-01-01T09:12:23.348-06:002011-01-01T09:12:23.348-06:00He really comes off like someone from NAMBLA, cree...He really comes off like someone from NAMBLA, creepy as all get out and sees nothing wrong with it.<br /><br />"You cant even give me a REASON why its wrong for a 35 year old man to have sex with a 10 year old, just keep saying its socially unacceptable and wrong. All Im doing is asking for a reason, and saying that I disagree with the arbitrary rules you people blah blah blah"<br /><br />Still, at least he demonstrated that hes probably a good person to go to for advice, at least if you need to know about telescopes, binoculars, performance and reliability of white panel vans, window tinting, tree climbing techniques, etc.Ithonicfuryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13954473314799411412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-44858024805527714772010-12-31T19:45:37.725-06:002010-12-31T19:45:37.725-06:00It reads like someone trying to talk through a gag...It reads like someone trying to talk through a gag.Mark Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12082856602483276803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-32906811054544664722010-12-31T17:59:49.552-06:002010-12-31T17:59:49.552-06:00I really hope nobody ever gets disemvoweled again....I really hope nobody ever gets disemvoweled again. Because I think that wound up punishing me trying to read it far more than the actual disemvowelee writing it. Brutal.rrpostalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336728549010108830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-51565080340992955852010-12-31T15:26:30.526-06:002010-12-31T15:26:30.526-06:00Russell,
Cool, thanks for that! There were a coup...Russell,<br /><br />Cool, thanks for that! There were a couple of guys under the total-ban script I shifted to disemvoweling, for more or less the same reasons. They had outstayed their welcome by becoming irritants, but making it possible for other readers to understand just how dickish they were is instructive, and feels less like simply censorship (which I'm not comfortable with, when boneheaded idiocy is the only crime).Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-85709256136379299652010-12-31T15:13:51.279-06:002010-12-31T15:13:51.279-06:00Looks like Robert voted himself off, too bad. I w...Looks like Robert voted himself off, too bad. I was hoping he would begin to understand the difference between offering a compliment and unsolicited backhanded advice.<br /><br />Nice filter Kazim, the <i>// Robert (misogynist asshat) </i>note gave me a chuckle, he should feel lucky that he wasn't unconsonanted.MAtheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12489281535410681576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-19830508155757953382010-12-31T10:26:27.137-06:002010-12-31T10:26:27.137-06:00*checks source*
...wow. I feel like I've was...*checks source*<br /><br />...wow. I feel like I've wasted so many words when just "You're a creepy douche-hat" would have sufficed, with the same outcome.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16357000315675352088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-17002164327249943262010-12-31T09:20:46.515-06:002010-12-31T09:20:46.515-06:00Yeah, Martin. I updated the ban script to allow a...Yeah, Martin. I updated the ban script to allow a choice of banning and disemvoweling. The way I see it, I want to discourage Robert from posting, but I want people who read the thread in the future to be able, with effort, to read his posts and understand what the trigger was.<br /><br />If you want to exercise the option, there are now two lists in the Javascript. One is for removing posts completely, and the other is for disemvoweling. It's quite neat, if I say so myself.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-42310023349091437812010-12-31T08:57:24.023-06:002010-12-31T08:57:24.023-06:00Uh, Russell, you were aware there's already a ...Uh, Russell, you were aware there's already a ban script here, right? What did you think I've been using to plonk Mabus all this time? Guess it's nice to have a second one for disemvoweling now, as the other one just disappears you. Welcome to AE, where redundancy is never enough!Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-62306921423787783782010-12-31T08:40:31.850-06:002010-12-31T08:40:31.850-06:00If you want to see the original posts you have two...If you want to see the original posts you have two choices:<br />1. Decipher the message by filling in the vowels yourself. It's not really very hard, it's just inconvenient.<br />2. Right click the page and "view source." The messages are all still there, but the display is altered through coding magic.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-35261594940247782042010-12-31T08:40:29.192-06:002010-12-31T08:40:29.192-06:00You could disable javascript to read it, if, for s...You could disable javascript to read it, if, for some reason, you wanted to.JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-32475937752174067802010-12-31T07:59:22.107-06:002010-12-31T07:59:22.107-06:00Oh darn, why did I got to bed and miss the final s...Oh darn, why did I got to bed and miss the final salvo of stupid before it was run over by Russell's leet skillz? *snaps fingers*<br /><br />So weird to see my own name disemvoweled, though.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16357000315675352088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-30627317864314744472010-12-31T07:59:04.779-06:002010-12-31T07:59:04.779-06:00Yes but it's no defense against raspberries.Yes but it's no defense against raspberries.Mark Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12082856602483276803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-23334354186237797342010-12-31T06:07:23.971-06:002010-12-31T06:07:23.971-06:00No it's not, I just wrote the code myself. Ph...No it's not, I just wrote the code myself. Ph33r my leet Javascripting skillz!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-74174485584542322762010-12-31T05:54:41.170-06:002010-12-31T05:54:41.170-06:00Ah, I get it, it's some kind of blogspot optio...Ah, I get it, it's some kind of blogspot option.JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-5641586003220535502010-12-31T05:52:55.160-06:002010-12-31T05:52:55.160-06:00Robert is breaking through teh banzRobert is breaking through teh banzJThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-43380225419558754332010-12-31T04:22:01.440-06:002010-12-31T04:22:01.440-06:00Martin......I'm not trying to be helpful or pe...Martin......I'm not trying to be helpful or pertinent I'm simply making the point that the issue of male privilege is not as clear cut as you make out and therefore I'm offering alternative sources so people on this blog can make their own decisions on a subject that you think is very clear cut when that's not the case.<br />Here's what one of my favourite feminists has to say on the issue of rape (note that I'm not offering any opinion on her views);<br />http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/germaine-greer-rape-472379.html<br /><br />http://www.nigelberman.co.uk/feature1_27.htm<br /><br />I'll highlight the controversial bit;<br /><br /> "The first of these stories surfaced in 1995, when Greer stated that she herself had been raped at the age of nineteen. In a move that provoked anger from anti-rape protesters she commented that she "was more afraid of the rapist's fists and his vicious mind" than his penis. "In a sense the penis came to my rescue. Does a man begging for mercy as he is being kicked, feel any less terror and humiliation than I did ? To insist that outrage by penis is worse than outrage by any other means is to glorify and magnify the tag of flesh beyond reason."<br /><br />Reading these lines out of context as they were quoted in many news articles it's easy to see why anti-rape protesters were so furious. Having fought to establish the significance and emotional brutality of rape for decades, as well as the need to punish the crime (Greer's rape went unreported) they saw their work being hammered down. However, reading Greer's full article on rape, the key point emerges as relevant and prescient. Explaining it later she commented that, "A man cannot destroy a woman with his penis. He cannot do it, I think that is an important feminist point and it is one I will continue to make." Greer wasn't trying to re-define rape as trivial, but to break down the myth of the all-powerful phallic universe. After all, whilst women were in thrall to the mighty penis, they were unlikely to feel powerful enough to break free. Greer was making a legitimate point about female survival."six45ivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06055543011701737670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-44417525988856214402010-12-31T04:18:42.033-06:002010-12-31T04:18:42.033-06:00Yep, that last post clinched it, Robert. Thanks f...Yep, that last post clinched it, Robert. Thanks for making the decision so easy.<br /><br />BAN HAMMER.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-62233862926163587602010-12-31T02:34:48.802-06:002010-12-31T02:34:48.802-06:00I am glad Russell that you have finally been so fr...I am glad Russell that you have finally been so frank about the nature of this dialog. <br />That you don't have to justify your discomfort<br /><br />I could agree, that you don't. though it seems inconsistent since you tend not to give theists that honor when they are offended by atheists.<br /> <br />But I accepted that you don't have to justify your discomfort. I said that earlier.<br /><br />Yet you and other regular AE blog posters give arguments purporting to give reasons for their discomfort. No reason can be wrong, it seems. I could even accept that. And i'm not allowed to disagree with even a reason that others don't agree with. I could even accept that these are the rules. Though I didn't fully realise they were until now.<br /><br />Intellectually justifying your arguments is what you do on the program, I thought you would apply this to everything in life. Apparently not. <br /><br />On the show you are quite disdainful of people that come up with arguments and don't expect anybody else to argue with them. They shouldn't even bother. But you do this now. And wonder at my frustration. I learnt it from you guys, the supposed masters of this approach that do this non stop for 10 years and promote this approach very repetitively on your shows. I thought you lived by it and believed in it and consistently of course. I guess perhaps you do but it's hard for me to see how. Since you really drill the intellectually justify your arguments approach, when arguments are given. And consistent reasoning and an open mind and these things you preach, I thought they were the huge virtues that you wouldn't compromise.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00414371436530213051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-31380353465549642172010-12-31T00:03:28.709-06:002010-12-31T00:03:28.709-06:00I did apologize, I never defended my behavior as r...I did apologize, I never defended my behavior as right, yet I am still being told that I am unable to recognize inappropriate behavior. But I do recognize that my behavior was inappropriate, what do you think I meant when I said I offended her, I apologize for offending her. I did conform to Russell's 3 requirements. <br /><br />Be fair. <br /><br />Martin, the argument you make about male privilege is an interesting one, and I think an answer along those lines might be correct, but that doesn't mean your particular answer is right in its entirety. But you don't want it challenged, so we'll never know if it's right in its entirety. Or if it's just along the right lines. I imagine the situation is similar with ydgmdlu where unlike many, he might not mind if his argument is challenged, but he takes it the wrong way too. I am familiar with the scenes he speaks of in ..Raymond. About the woman annoying that other woman with the cooking.<br /><br />Even you Martin would disagree with Rojaila's point, that men would find it creepy to have women tell them they look strong. But saying so wouldn't mean you find my behaviour appropriate(I don't). If I disagree with her point it doesn't mean that I find my behaviour appropriate.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00414371436530213051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-17510784266252314222010-12-30T20:59:55.169-06:002010-12-30T20:59:55.169-06:00Pat Robertson makes better apologies.Pat Robertson makes better apologies.Mark Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12082856602483276803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-50990346777330389442010-12-30T19:23:31.175-06:002010-12-30T19:23:31.175-06:00Thanks for reminding us that there are butthurt mi...Thanks for reminding us that there are butthurt misogynists out there in the world who like to invent controversies, just as butthurt creationists like to invent controversies between creationism and evolution where none actually exist in the science. Whether or not women enjoy their own degree of privilege in life (and the one that really counts is the privilege to choose who gets to play with their bodies), that is irrelevant to the realities expressed in the Schrodinger's Rapist post, as well as to Robert's inappropriate behavior and inability to recognize it. We're trying to give helpful advice to a guy who screwed up here. Reinforcing "<i>teh menz have it ruff, too!</i>" isn't particularly helpful or even pertinent.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.com