tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post2547302209151495641..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Patrick Greene checks inUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-51468388878326241352009-03-29T02:50:00.000-05:002009-03-29T02:50:00.000-05:00As for me and my family we will always worship God...As for me and my family we will always worship God. I have peace in my heart and comfort knowing I am never alone. I have had so many wonderful things happen through prayer. But I always remember to thank him for all the beautiful things he has given us and done for us first. If this Patrick person could feel this peace he would not feel he needed to attack those who choose to love God. I will pray for him . Maybe he needs to stop and smell a beautiful flower once in awhile.EarthAngelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01312189461302704139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-62969005697725869122008-07-29T16:02:00.000-05:002008-07-29T16:02:00.000-05:00Patrick is acting just like churchgoers who picket...Patrick is acting just like churchgoers who picket, say, a PFLAG speaker at some public venue. <BR/><BR/>Refute speech with which you disagree, don't suppress it. <BR/>I'm glad to see that you AE guys aren't jumping on this moronic bandwagon.Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-10464986150327446032008-07-28T13:17:00.000-05:002008-07-28T13:17:00.000-05:00Patrick's story is that his wife had written a let...Patrick's story is that his wife had written a letter to the local paper over some matter, and the apartment manager got incensed when she realized she was dealing with <I>those people</I>. I pointed out to Patrick there are any number of ways he could have handled that (I don't know about 20 years ago, but today it would certainly be illegal, and he'd have had <I>real</I> grounds for a suit), but to nurse a grudge over something like that for 20 years is probably not the best way.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-65997207275845751702008-07-28T12:54:00.000-05:002008-07-28T12:54:00.000-05:00I'm (hopefully) approaching the end of what's been...I'm (hopefully) approaching the end of what's been 14 years of various rental living. Never has it ever come up that I'm an atheist, nor do I know the religious opinions of my landlords, their staff, maintenance guys, or anyone else. Currently I don't know the religious opinions of my realtor or the people selling the home I want to buy. <BR/><BR/>Now I am a large, loud and never shy to talk guy from Philly with a blog, a podcast (not mine, I'm part of a Herd) and who spends entirely too much time arguing issues of politics and religion online. If I'm not getting into shit, what the hell is Patrick doing, and/or what kind of people is he having the misfortune of running into so frequently?PhillyChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03355892225956705948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-90524524630005679022008-07-28T12:16:00.000-05:002008-07-28T12:16:00.000-05:00There's a better way to get back at apartment mana...There's a better way to get back at apartment managers who discriminate, the local, state, and federal departments of housing and urban development. They even run sting operations for things like this, thanks to egregious racial and anti-Semitic practices in the past. Believe me, they take these things very seriously, although I'm assuming that they haven't slackened off in the last eight years...rogerdrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13872517878457201488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-69183769338241377142008-07-28T09:06:00.000-05:002008-07-28T09:06:00.000-05:00I have to echo this article's sentiments here. How...I have to echo this article's sentiments here. How does atheism come up in these scenarios? I spent a few decades in apartment dwellings, both as a believer and as an atheist (after I'd deconverted). My religious opinions were never questioned. In fact, if I understand correctly, it's illegal for that question to even exist on an application for renting housing. Same with work. It's illegal to ask about an applicant's religion. These rules are put in place _specifically_ to avoid prejudice and discrimination in these areas--to provide equal opporutnity to all.<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying it's right that groups exist who would be treated prejudicially if they opened their mouths. "Don't ask, don't tell," is a crap policy, in my opinion. I'm guessing, for example. heterosexuals in the military aren't "not telling" after their Saturday night dates. So, it's hardly a way to promote true equality. But what it does do, in the case of equal opportunity housing and hiring, is allow people who may have to make a living in less than progressive areas of the country, find it easier to do so until their region "catches up" with the more civilized areas.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, HOW does atheism keep coming up in all these weirdly non-religious situations? I'm not trying to be judgmental. I've certainly read about real prejudice aimed at atheists (sometimes at atheist children--which is despicable). But I have to wonder if "atheism" is an excuse here and if Patrick isn't actually being discriminated because he obnoxiously shoves his ideology down people's throats.<BR/><BR/>It's like the Xian self-fulfilling persecution: Shove your religion down everyone's throat--and anytime someone tells you to take a flying f*ck--then you know you're on the right track, because the Bible says people will despise you for your beliefs.<BR/><BR/>Really? For your beliefs? Not for your obnoxious behavior?<BR/><BR/>Again, I can't say for sure, but this is what appears, to me, to be happening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-91579261111531664942008-07-27T22:29:00.000-05:002008-07-27T22:29:00.000-05:00hi guys!Has anyone heard of the Italian suing the ...hi guys!<BR/>Has anyone heard of the Italian suing the Church (the Big One) for claiming to present factual knowledge of Jesus? He said they were promising people benefits without evidence that their claims were based on truth. The case was accepted (marvelous enough), and is afaik now at the European Court for Human Rights. The last time I checked months ago, it was still incue to be heard.<BR/><BR/>p.s. matt, tracie, I'm the Felix who sent you the emails on the Batman show, so here's who I am. I recently put my picture up to my account. Communication feels much better when you know how someone actually looks like. Yeah, I know that I look like you-know-who.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00749925395851545703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-67255850191261438552008-07-27T01:21:00.000-05:002008-07-27T01:21:00.000-05:00I have to wonder how the hell this guy gets into a...I have to wonder how the hell this guy gets into all of these situations.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Hi, I'd like to order the steak and eggs. Medium rare for the steak and over easy on the eggs, please. <BR/><BR/>And just so you know, I'm an atheist and think the bible is full of bullshit.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and coffee too."Inky, Pinky, Blinky and Clydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705763038336992299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-18917925398532552902008-07-26T19:49:00.000-05:002008-07-26T19:49:00.000-05:00Should make for an interesting show. I would love ...Should make for an interesting show. I would love to hear Patrick explain how atheism came up in all those instances like finding an apartment, driving a cab, or paying for your stuff at Walmart. Is he covered in scarlet "A"s? "Jesus sucks" tattooed on his forehead?PhillyChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03355892225956705948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-13569451352960252412008-07-25T22:03:00.000-05:002008-07-25T22:03:00.000-05:00Yeah, like you said, why would atheism even come u...Yeah, like you said, why would atheism even come up at all in situations like that?<BR/><BR/>"Here's my lease application and references. Oh, and I think your God is a lie. But your apartments are beautiful! Too bad Jesus is dead!"<BR/><BR/>"You're going to the airport, right? Cool. Hey, did you know that if you're Christian, you're a deluded asshole?"<BR/><BR/>Seriously. Atheism <I>never</I> comes up unless I'm carrying on a conversation with someone I know and we start talking about religion. And sometimes not even then.<BR/><BR/>If you do X, knowing X might have some negative fallout with the people around you, and then they meltdown, you can't completely abdicate all responsibility. Yes, people should be more tolerant, but when you <I>know</I> they're not, you don't try to pretend the world's a different way and then get indignant when the expected happens.<BR/><BR/>Pat should take a cue from our third president:<BR/><BR/>"Nothing gives a person so much advantage over another as to remain always cool and unruffled under all circumstances."<BR/>--Thomas JeffersonDonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06661441668625677468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-59366472136941774102008-07-25T21:58:00.000-05:002008-07-25T21:58:00.000-05:00Patrick can call in, he's got the number...and he'...Patrick can call in, he's got the number...and he's going to be part of a special edition of AE, whether he calls in or not. I won't promise equal time, that depends on what he has to say and how much time it takes me to respond.<BR/><BR/>Russell and I will be doing an episode on "Atheists who got it wrong..." or maybe "Stupid Atheist Tricks" or something similar.<BR/><BR/>It's only fair. After pointing out stupidity in other groups, it'd be a bit hypocritical not to turn that eye on ourselves.<BR/><BR/>It's not like I haven't done stupid things myself.Matt D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06865398618141711897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-30257229530636312212008-07-25T21:38:00.000-05:002008-07-25T21:38:00.000-05:00Well, as I said. People who want to be guests on t...Well, as I said. People who want to be guests on the show are advised that calling the host an asshole before you ask isn't the most helpful way to land you a guest slot. Our experience of Patrick up to now raises real questions as to whether or not he was denied an apartment lease because he's an atheist, or an obnoxious atheist who chose to get all up in the manager's face about it.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-36603431573688839682008-07-25T21:00:00.000-05:002008-07-25T21:00:00.000-05:00It seems like Patrick's problem is not his atheism...It seems like Patrick's problem is not his atheism but his personality. If you behave badly, people will treat you badly. If you behave nicely, people will treat you nicely. It's just that simple. Not always easy, but always simple. <BR/><BR/>I don't think he should be on the AETV show. The show presents positive atheism.NALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12244370945682162312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-74557107431250884992008-07-25T19:10:00.000-05:002008-07-25T19:10:00.000-05:00I'm an atheist, and drove a taxi for 2 years. I go...I'm an atheist, and drove a taxi for 2 years. I got heaps of tips, and never had anyone try to under-pay me. I'm just saying.Chris (from Oz)https://www.blogger.com/profile/09559381837370079164noreply@blogger.com