tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post7375997676442140064..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: An Islamic response to drawing MohammedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-9859270499770154222010-06-04T12:17:21.159-05:002010-06-04T12:17:21.159-05:006cstd,
Such a meeting might not even make a dent....6cstd,<br /><br />Such a meeting might not even make a dent.<br /><br />You have to personally experience H-deniers, as I unfortunately have, to realize how unhinged they are.George From NYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158111795024631345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-2996629069856299212010-06-04T12:15:50.027-05:002010-06-04T12:15:50.027-05:00Gafoor,
Eskimos love Islam.
After all, Mohammad ...Gafoor,<br /><br />Eskimos love Islam.<br /><br />After all, Mohammad was the Seal of the Prophets.<br /><br /><br /><br />THANK YOU! Internet audiences are the best. Try the chicken. Good night!George From NYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158111795024631345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-31175022047589835372010-06-04T04:10:18.824-05:002010-06-04T04:10:18.824-05:00I went to the Holocaust Museum when it first opene...I went to the Holocaust Museum when it first opened in Skokie. We even got to meet and talk to someone who was actually in the concentration camp as a child. It is disturbing to imagine what kind of pictures they could draw...maybe it would give them pause for thought.6cstdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16023993971010802239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-76639524704337939722010-06-01T01:16:02.963-05:002010-06-01T01:16:02.963-05:00Thousands of Kashmiri Pandits(Hindus) were forced ...Thousands of Kashmiri Pandits(Hindus) were forced out of their homes by occupiers infiltrating from Pakistan. Pakistan continues to export terror into India. We all know how many Americans, Israelis, British and other nationals were brutally killed by Pakistani militants in the Mumbai attacks of 26/11. <br /><br />[Pakistan denies that the attackers of 26/11 mumbai were Pakistani or that they were muslims, even after one of the captured terrorists confessed. Even after India was willing to hand over the tapes of their Pakistani handlers to a neutral country, and even after a Pakistani news agency spoke to the captured terrorist's parents in Faridkot, Pakistan. <br />Isn't this denial, similar to the denial of the holocaust? Isn't this denial similar to the denial that the perpetrators of 9/11 were muslim? Muslims have a talent for making themselves look stupid globaly. We are Stupid!! Inshallah!! Allah hu Akbar!!! burn!! Kill!!! yalayayaallaaa hu hu<br />]<br /><br />Muslims are the only community in the world that have conflicts with Hindus(in India), Buddhists (Buddha statues in Afghanistan, and Bali incidents), Christians (since centuries all over the world), Jews (decreed by the prophet, currently in Palestine), Sikhs (In Punjab), Communists (In Xingxhang province of China by Uighurs), Atheists (Draw muhammad day, Van Gogh), Cartoonists, Fashion designers, Internet portals, News agencies, intelligence agencies…whoa…the list is endless. Why is the rest of the world putting up with the Shit called islam?<br /><br />PS: I don't know if muslims had problems with eskimos ...can anybody cite a reference pls.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09389827968230355108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-42470359169936616722010-05-29T14:41:46.379-05:002010-05-29T14:41:46.379-05:00Robert,
There are a lot of Muslims who harbor the...Robert,<br /><br />There are a lot of Muslims who harbor the classic anti-Semitic view of Jews (esp in the West) as being a sinister, string-pulling cabal.<br /><br />So when they reply to drawings of Big Mo with, "Oh yeah? Well we're going to make Holocaust cartoons!" what they're actually doing - or so they think - is challenging these nefarious Zionist puppeteers to show their hand by stopping such images from appearing.<br /><br />There is also the related bigot-trope that our view of the Holocaust as a genuine historical event, sui generis horror and cautionary example of omega-point racism is a delusion; a kind of mass-hypnosis orchestrated by, you guessed it, Jews/Zionists to immunize themselves from scrutiny and criticism.<br /><br />This is such fathomless stupidity that I had trouble even writing that last sentence - but <i>people believe it.</i> And to them, Holocaust-mocking and anti-Semitic caricature in general serves the cause of truth as liberating iconoclasm.George From NYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158111795024631345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-86060917477846466082010-05-29T12:24:15.942-05:002010-05-29T12:24:15.942-05:00Thanks Kevin.
I'm still confused though. If t...Thanks Kevin.<br /><br />I'm still confused though. If the point is that atheists killed the Jews (which is sounds like they're saying?) why would we care if someone mocked the event? I mean, making fun of Crusade victims, I wouldn't think would offend the Crusaders...? They're just stupid.<br /><br />Um, Robert:<br /><br />>You all seem to be missing the point, which is to attack something that is taboo in the West: the Jews.<br /><br />Jews aren't taboo in the West. We have them living here. Also, if you think we don't make jokes about them, you're living in a bubble. As Ing points out, some of the people who mock Jews the heaviest, ARE other Jews--such as Mel Brookes and Woody Allen, and any number of Jewish standups...? Did you see the Seinfeld episode where he made out during Shindler's List in the theatre? When did Jews become "taboo"?<br /><br />>The point is to create the same indignation in the West as the attack at Muhammad is creating in their cultures.<br /><br />Impossible. See, in the U.S. we just aren't motivated to kill people over drawings--of anything.<br /><br />>Attacking Jesus Christ wouldn't work, because our countries are secular,<br /><br />Tell that to the Christian nation crowd. Additionally, maybe the Muslims can take a clue from Christians here. If Piss Christ didn't get anyone killed, what's up their asses?<br /><br />>apart from the US, is highly non religious<br /><br />Please see my post on the letter to North Ireland's Culture Minister above this one.<br /><br />>The Jews are pretty much all they've got!<br /><br />Then they've got NOTHING. And that's the point. There is no sacred cow to equate with the lunacy they show with regard to drawing Mohammed. That's why this is a FAIL. All they've "got" can't touch their idiotic over-reactions to mocking their religion.<br /><br />>So the logic is, if in spite of free speech we criminalize all criticism of the Holocaust,<br /><br />"We" do? According to you, the US is the only non "highly religious" Western nation--and we don't give a shit if someone mocks the holocaust. We will say they're a dick--perhaps call for a resignation if they're a public figure...but riot in the streets and kill people over it? Unlikely. I can't help what "laws" exist elsewhere. We have dumbass laws in the US as well on occasion; but even a law against slandering the holocaust isn't meant to stop street violence from angry Jews who are murderously bent on silencing deniers. Again: Muslims--take a clue from the Jews here and settle down.<br /><br />>then the Holocaut must be pretty taboo (which it is).<br /><br />Uh, not, it's not. And you haven't demonstrated it is. I even know some "oven" jokes myself. I don't repeat them because I think they're in poor taste--not because I'm afraid Jews will murder me. That's the difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-88725920114475470892010-05-28T23:06:36.078-05:002010-05-28T23:06:36.078-05:00@George
Yup, every skin head seems to have the op...@George<br /><br />Yup, every skin head seems to have the opinion "The holocaust never happened...AND IT WAS TOTALLY BITCHIN!"Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-84983436716237817742010-05-27T13:12:40.854-05:002010-05-27T13:12:40.854-05:00"We are here to reflect about the foundationa...<b>"We are here to reflect about the foundational myth of the secular cult."<br /><br />Myth? Really?</b><br /><br />The dirty little not-so-secret secret of Holocaust Deniers is that they know full well that it happened - they just don't think it went far enough.<br /><br />They're not looking for evidence; they're looking for an encore.George From NYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158111795024631345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-69778392827787869042010-05-26T14:57:35.795-05:002010-05-26T14:57:35.795-05:00During the height of the "Everybody Draw Muha...During the height of the "Everybody Draw Muhammed" controversy, I would often take a peek at the discussion section of said Facebook page. The phrase "9/11" was brought up a few times. None of it was ever very constructive. When it was a non-Muslim raising the issue, it was to somehow tarnish all Muslims with the actions of the hijackers. When it was a Muslim pointing out the attacks, it was sometimes to point out that those guys were not "true Muslims."<br /><br />But there was an interesting phenomenon in this regard, which ties into this topic. More often than you would think, a Muslim would attempt to distract from their perceived fanatical association by deflecting the issue and blaming someone else for the atrocity. Yup, 9/11 was actually done by the Jews.I Am The Scumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04720991390792197291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-24790265419587123462010-05-26T14:48:22.851-05:002010-05-26T14:48:22.851-05:00Afterthought, yes sorry for just saying European. ...Afterthought, yes sorry for just saying European. I should have been more specific. (Incidentally Germany isn't the only country with such laws. Austria, Belgium, France, Israel and Poland have such laws.)Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00637936588223855248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-42282453108543062992010-05-26T14:12:49.013-05:002010-05-26T14:12:49.013-05:00"You all seem to be missing the point, which ..."You all seem to be missing the point, which is to attack something that is taboo in the West: the Jews. The point is to create the same indignation in the West as the attack at Muhammad is creating in their cultures. Attacking Jesus Christ wouldn't work, because our countries are secular, and the West, apart from the US, is highly non religious. The Jews are pretty much all they've got! Remember that in many countries in Europe, revisionism is a crime and is punishable by jail time. So the logic is, if in spite of free speech we criminalize all criticism of the Holocaust, then the Holocaut must be pretty taboo (which it is)."<br /><br />The Jews have well insulated themselves from any mocking with a shield of self deprecating humor. When it comes to that the jews are like the Borg, Attacking them like this will only make them stronger!Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-59213175895120851032010-05-25T18:52:48.158-05:002010-05-25T18:52:48.158-05:00Equivocating something silly and harmless (drawing...Equivocating something silly and harmless (drawing a picture of Mohammed) with something horrifying, brutal, and real (The Holocaust) is just the type of pathetic and morally bankrupt response you would expect from brainwashed religious zealots.ABhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536547131562840293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-66761712162055822012010-05-25T17:21:57.796-05:002010-05-25T17:21:57.796-05:00Are they equating Mohammed with six millions of in...Are they equating Mohammed with six millions of innocent victims? Is Mohammad like those Jews, but also homosexuals who were murdered by Nazis? So Mohammad shares something with them, anyway there is certainly an analogy the Muslim fundies are making here.Guillaumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12376749604845793465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-59407723324280384222010-05-25T16:35:09.225-05:002010-05-25T16:35:09.225-05:00"2. As someone else asked...why "Jews&qu..."2. As someone else asked...why "Jews"? Did the Jews secretly organize Draw Mohammed Day? Do they think atheists care if one religion insults another? WTF? Haha! Too stupid."<br /><br />I was similarly confused at first and then I saw the Facebook page. <br /><br />"From the tens of millions massacred by the Atheist Soviet regime"<br /><br />Its the Expelled like propaganda that atheism is a cause for genocide. That DMD is somehow going to get a ball rolling that will lead to the persecution of Muslims and that they should be perceived as the victim. Epic fail indeed.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006028835831638046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-47476572069314459282010-05-25T16:09:49.855-05:002010-05-25T16:09:49.855-05:00You all seem to be missing the point, which is to ...You all seem to be missing the point, which is to attack something that is taboo in the West: the Jews. The point is to create the same indignation in the West as the attack at Muhammad is creating in their cultures. Attacking Jesus Christ wouldn't work, because our countries are secular, and the West, apart from the US, is highly non religious. The Jews are pretty much all they've got! Remember that in many countries in Europe, revisionism is a crime and is punishable by jail time. So the logic is, if in spite of free speech we criminalize all criticism of the Holocaust, then the Holocaut must be pretty taboo (which it is).Robert Moranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00706576618914923528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-15894468505865359242010-05-25T15:45:48.790-05:002010-05-25T15:45:48.790-05:00It's funny because it makes no sense whatsoeve...It's funny because it makes no sense whatsoever. As has been pointed out--the Holocaust is not sacred, and anyone may depict it. What makes them think drawing the Holocaust is offensive? I guess if you made jokes in your depiction? But even then...<br /><br />1. Nobody cares if you do it, you just look like a dullard.<br /><br />and<br /><br />2. As someone else asked...why "Jews"? Did the Jews secretly organize Draw Mohammed Day? Do they think atheists care if one religion insults another? WTF? Haha! Too stupid.<br /><br />Epic FAIL and way to make yourselves look ridiculous. The point of DMD seems to have sailed straight over their heads with plenty of room to spare!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-42021354115073415862010-05-25T15:11:40.986-05:002010-05-25T15:11:40.986-05:00Joshua, as an Englishman - lumping all of Europe t...Joshua, as an Englishman - lumping all of Europe together like that makes me cringe.<br /><br />As far as I know, Germany is the only European country to forbid holocaust denial.<br /><br />Whilst I disagree with it, I'm sure everyone would also agree that it is a little different to religious prohibitions such as drawing Muhammad.Afterthought_btwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17758975616219512727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-19498949772750665472010-05-25T11:52:58.659-05:002010-05-25T11:52:58.659-05:00Why single out the Jews? Maybe the muslims should...Why single out the Jews? Maybe the muslims should try to draw a picture of a typical atheist. Oh- nobody knows what one looks like. See that would be exactly like a picture of Mo.DavidCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567694912132966263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-63091365822695084012010-05-25T11:40:50.418-05:002010-05-25T11:40:50.418-05:00Grammar king I assume it's an atheist myth, be...Grammar king I assume it's an atheist myth, because it is a myth made up about atheists?<br /><br />I find myself agreeing with everyone above, but also find it odd that they are claiming <br /><br />'The difference is that you draw Lies about Muhammad and we draw Truth about you.'<br /><br />So merely drawing Muhammad is a lie? O.o<br /><br />I suspect this has been set up by someone who has been told DMD was all about insulting Muhammad, rather than protecting our own freedom of speech.<br /><br />Can't be too surprised that they didn't actually do any research judging by the rest of the claims.Afterthought_btwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17758975616219512727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-82663101698194902322010-05-25T11:19:16.631-05:002010-05-25T11:19:16.631-05:00There's a minimally valid point here. The Euro...There's a minimally valid point here. The European laws against Holocaust denial are a restriction on free speech.<br /><br />That said, there are two obvious differences: First, no one is threatening to kill Holocaust deniers. Second, it isn't at all clear how the Holocaust is connected. This person must think that draw Muhammad day came from the grand controlling Zionist Jew conspiracy. Of course, we have much better things to do with our time. Now pardon me, I've got to go manipulate gold prices a bit more.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00637936588223855248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-2051148599143114932010-05-25T11:11:56.540-05:002010-05-25T11:11:56.540-05:00More than just the holocaust denial aspect of this...More than just the holocaust denial aspect of this (watch Germany btw, Holocaust denial is illegal there and I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get themselves arrested for a persecution angle), I'm surprised that they seem to be describing the Holocaust as an 'atheist myth'. What's atheist about it?grammar kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07013978337083600740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-20563113820921657852010-05-25T11:00:20.041-05:002010-05-25T11:00:20.041-05:00@Strangelove You took the words out of my mouth, m...@Strangelove You took the words out of my mouth, man. The fact that invoking the Holocaust is the best they can do, is laughable.ThatAtheistChickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13062439506515114055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-66342459820914837512010-05-25T10:28:17.161-05:002010-05-25T10:28:17.161-05:00I have no doubt some Christian will take offence o...I have no doubt some Christian will take offence on behalf of the Jews and call this a hate crime or anti-Semitic (which Christianity and Islam fundamentally are!) and call for arrests or protests, probably on Fox.March Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13116034158087704885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-62462695491968291062010-05-25T10:00:51.632-05:002010-05-25T10:00:51.632-05:00I'm not sure if this is an attempt to deny the...I'm not sure if this is an attempt to deny the holocaust, or an attempt to showcase Nazis as an "evil atheist regime."<br /><br />What would be interesting to see is a mix of the two: Cartoons depicting "evil atheists" plotting to fake the genocide... for whatever reason. But I don't expect anyone to be that creative.AZ Superman01https://www.blogger.com/profile/01759724986282036957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-90745201289596931262010-05-25T07:53:08.576-05:002010-05-25T07:53:08.576-05:00I am so utterly offended that I wanna go and ki......I am so utterly offended that I wanna go and ki... wait, no I am not offended nor do I even want to harm or yell at anyone over this.BeamStalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772110446629492132noreply@blogger.com