tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post5149730051260020966..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: God-based Abortion Policy: FAIL (Open thread on episode 719)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger116125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-77320516761821723642011-08-15T17:19:06.900-05:002011-08-15T17:19:06.900-05:00I'd just like to say that while I was on the f...I'd just like to say that while I was on the fence about the whole Mark thing before (and found it funny how seriously people were taking it), the recent show, in which someone who was almost certainly the same guy as Bob called in with an apparently-somewhat-fakey London accent and more importantly mentioned Chris Langan again immediately before hanging up, has me thinking it's probably no coincidence at this point. The Mark part of the argument is shakier, but we at least have relevant circumstantial information at this point.Eyedunnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02142092092337330250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-825513765263952072011-08-15T09:29:30.646-05:002011-08-15T09:29:30.646-05:00Stay classy, AE.Stay classy, AE.memoryherohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09211946587152601624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-15358572880960562272011-08-14T20:52:18.494-05:002011-08-14T20:52:18.494-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.memoryherohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09211946587152601624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-21054247644978884722011-08-09T12:08:36.181-05:002011-08-09T12:08:36.181-05:00Kazim, I think there's some miscommunication g...Kazim, I think there's some miscommunication going on. Nobody actually thinks (as far as I can tell) that "Bob" is actually Mark, the last caller from the show. Rather, they are saying that "Bob" is Mark, the guy claiming to be from the Austin Stone church. He hasn't called in over a month.Tyler Overmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440702843475740867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-32037755875671610562011-08-07T11:11:19.952-05:002011-08-07T11:11:19.952-05:00Well at least "Bob" came on with the sam...Well at least "Bob" came on with the same 'maybe y'all scared of [something]' routine, like Mark. In my ears, he younds like Mark pretending to be Bob because the hosts were getting tired of him.<br />I won't say it's him for sure, but - wow - he sounds very similar.sans_Dieuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11437040905394792018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-62115775499527296092011-08-01T17:00:40.579-05:002011-08-01T17:00:40.579-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Guillaumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12376749604845793465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-35985909626855803762011-08-01T08:36:16.192-05:002011-08-01T08:36:16.192-05:00Yes, I agree with Ithonicfury. For their own safe...Yes, I agree with Ithonicfury. For their own safety, Christians should stop promoting Christianity immediately. Every time you claim that Jesus Christ is the only path to know God, you anger the Muslim god greatly. This is very dangerous and I hope we can see a sharp decrease in billboards and church marquees making these dangerous statements.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-89816298291204614932011-07-31T21:48:13.925-05:002011-07-31T21:48:13.925-05:00@Heartbreaker
Good idea, thanks for the heads up,...@Heartbreaker<br /><br />Good idea, thanks for the heads up, we'll get started on that, in the meantime you should tell that to all the Christians who put up billboards, crosses, ten commandment crap everywhere, etc. <br /><br /> I mean, theres so much more christian stuff out there that theres much more of a chance a muslim might see that first before an atheist sign, it really worries me, we're lucky there hasnt been a fatwa frenzy yet!<br /><br />Tell you what, we'll hold them off, you Christians run for it!, we'll keep up our stuff as a distraction while you guys take down all the Christian billboards and crosses and everything. Dont look back, dont worry about us, SAVE YOURSELVES!!!!Ithonicfuryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13954473314799411412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-42216739433580703872011-07-31T19:49:21.345-05:002011-07-31T19:49:21.345-05:00I'm also marveling at the idea that pointing o...I'm also marveling at the idea that pointing out the wild fantasies of these people is somehow insane.<br /><br />"It's insane to voice opposition to insanity!"JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-72865800806664477642011-07-31T19:14:10.371-05:002011-07-31T19:14:10.371-05:00Atheists stop this because the life you save may b...<i>Atheists stop this because the life you save may be your own.</i><br /><br />The solution to rampant insanity isn't to back down. Christianity has been "domesticated" by bring dragged into a secular society that doesn't tolerate it more extreme aspects. Islam needs to be challenged and "domesticated" as well.JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-13998184359275672012011-07-31T16:40:39.721-05:002011-07-31T16:40:39.721-05:00Welcome to the real world, John. I had doubts sin...Welcome to the real world, John. I had doubts since before my confirmation and yet it took me years to really see the bible for what it is. It actually took me over ten years to realize the Eucharist is a cannibalistic ritual. I was walking down a hallway at work, after something made me think of it and then I was like "ewwwwwwww" How could I not have realized that? It's the power of hegemony + the power of indoctrination.<br /><br />Check out <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CijFacx3X40" rel="nofollow">this video</a> at about 2:50 - that's how the Last Supper really went!LadyAtheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12132821431322748921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-9433594162802839852011-07-31T16:39:02.095-05:002011-07-31T16:39:02.095-05:00Atheists putting up there is no God signs is dange...Atheists putting up there is no God signs is dangerous for them. It is stupid to do so. I am a Christian and would not hurt them. But there are Muslims who do not appreciate atheists implying that their prophet Muhammed is a liar or deluded.<br />Muhammed believed in God known to him as Allah.<br />I pray atheist stop their nonsense or a fatwah might be put on their head for insulting Muhammed and denying that Allah exists thus calling Muhammed a liar or deluded<br />I pray they stop this insanity<br />On one message board atheists were slamming Christians and denying God. But as soon as Allah was mentioned and a fatwah all the atheist comments disappeared..<br />Atheists stop this because the life you save may be your own.Heartbreakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00543558578249968486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-62058513975648382482011-07-30T11:00:37.315-05:002011-07-30T11:00:37.315-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dances_with_the_beasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12166734317886639473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-8074447999943861232011-07-30T03:08:00.730-05:002011-07-30T03:08:00.730-05:00Sorry for the off-topic (really need open threads ...Sorry for the off-topic (really need open threads here...), but congrats on Stephen Fry tweeting about the Iron Chariots wiki (though his 2.8 million followers seems to have killed the site...)<br /><br />http://twitter.com/#!/stephenfry/status/97211498820149248Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02468215532871402078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-26794608682209710452011-07-29T16:54:21.794-05:002011-07-29T16:54:21.794-05:00Good point mostserene1. if people want to fix the ...Good point mostserene1. if people want to fix the USA and even the world then relying on prayer alone is a futile attempt, but if one is going to pray anyways, then they better it least take some action. not a single time in history has prayer demonstrated to work outside of chance, coincidences, beating the odds, probability. if I can see even one time that prayer from the God of the bible do the impossible.... I will go back to the faith......I could search the whole world I will never find it. Christians are hypocrites when it comes to their faith and I was no different before this all. many Christians are good people like many religious people are, but the bible does not stand up when tested.<br /><br />I guess we will see if the economy gets worse and better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-12570336178437137932011-07-29T13:45:00.233-05:002011-07-29T13:45:00.233-05:00Hmmm, John, you sound a lot like Mark. Heh, heh....Hmmm, John, you sound a lot like Mark. Heh, heh.<br /><br />Set phasers on stun; just a little humor heading into the fractious weekend (during which the Tea Party will attempt to destroy the economy to bring down the President).<br /><br />Funny how on cable TV interviews some of the Tea Party reps are invoking god to help their side prevail. We are in the 21st century, aren't we?mostserene1https://www.blogger.com/profile/04554420942341820250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-42386102624715904742011-07-29T11:32:22.269-05:002011-07-29T11:32:22.269-05:00I was deep in the faith and it's no easy game ...I was deep in the faith and it's no easy game to leave. my Christianity was hardcore compared to the candy coated versions you see throughout the USA, it was more true to the bible, but even I could not hold the bible in it's more truer form. the bible is a vile book and I took two of my bibles and ripped them into pieces and threw them in the trash, I'm angry and bitter at the moment that I believed in something I was truly passionate about to just find it out it was all a lie. <br /><br /><br />Just go to Ex-Christian.net and you'll see what some of these people have to go through to leave the faith. I posted there myself a lot in the past. <br /><br /><br />All I can do now is read more and learn more and continue watch the non-prophets and Atheist Experience show along with Ask An Atheist show.<br /><br /><br />It's been almost 2 years since the chain effect that left my faith into ash, and even after 2 years almost I'm still shocked everyday to wake up realizing how the bible is all a lie, and I do not get surprised easily if you knew me, but this one did me over 10 fold.<br /><br /><br />I can only hope I can completely recover from it all. it also takes strength and a strong mind to accept reality for what it is, that you are born without a choice and you will die and that will be it for you in the end, and this is hard to accept for most as for right now, and this is one of the main reasons to cling to idea of a soul, if you take the soul concept out, all these religions will die, they depend on the idea of a soul, it's to ease your mind about real reality.....a reality that gives no shit about you, something I myself have a hard time accepting, but I cannot change what cannot be changed.<br /><br />I feel a little better now getting this off somewhere other then the ex-christian.net site, but I will not do what I did over there on here... this was back in June of 2010.<br /><br />Thanks to anyone that replied and Take Care.<br /><br />John.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-69664534150864642302011-07-29T10:09:45.986-05:002011-07-29T10:09:45.986-05:00Whoops - "Truman Show"Whoops - "Truman Show"JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-83679244672112417582011-07-29T10:09:00.223-05:002011-07-29T10:09:00.223-05:00It's always sort of a "Trueman Show"...It's always sort of a "Trueman Show" moment.JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-65924725963634596772011-07-29T10:08:35.810-05:002011-07-29T10:08:35.810-05:00I read John's soliloquy. It's always nice...I read John's soliloquy. It's always nice when someone "wakes up" and opens their eyes to a new world.<br /><br />It'll take quite while before your world view settles down into something more stable. I'm not saying you're chaotic or anything, but I can see that you're slogging through all the BS you've realized you were mired in, which can be an unnerving experience. That's fairly normal in the deconversion process, depending on how deep you were into the religion.JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-211702825082894742011-07-29T07:29:03.331-05:002011-07-29T07:29:03.331-05:00John, you have the zealousness of the recent conve...John, you have the zealousness of the recent convert and your enthusiasm is contagious. But you may want to familiarize yourself with TL;DR. Best Regards.mostserene1https://www.blogger.com/profile/04554420942341820250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-61750756922090717972011-07-28T22:27:26.954-05:002011-07-28T22:27:26.954-05:00Continue on from last post.
======================...Continue on from last post.<br />=======================<br />Another thing, Christians do not believe prayer the way they say they do. they take all the necessary precautions as the rest do and really been spoiled by modern science to much....did they forget all their brethren and sisters in the faith that once lived in harsh times and were science was truly in it's primitive stages, all those people who got screwed because they lived in the wrong times, so if any Christian says God works through science and man then this would be a direct insult to those people throughout the times.<br /><br />I do not care how smart some Christians are, people who make me look like I'm stupid, it does not mean the bible is true, for I have seen to many people who believed in all sorts of things, ranging from reptilian overloads controlling the planet and from no planes hit the 911 towers, from A to Z, and quite a few of them are smart, yet they can still believe in ridiculous things, and even if the whole world believed in a god that would make it no more true. Christians like myself at one time are people who shut down their brains when reading the bible and believing in the things they do, they can say other wise, but not a single one would believe if they did the same thing Matt did or what others have done.<br />=====================================<br />Christians cannot ever agree what is a true Christian is and isn't.......I've seen to many Christians judging other Christians, and used the same bible against them, even I can use the bible against many Christians to show them they're in danger, but it all depends how you interpret the bible and what cards you play, because the bible is vague in many areas and there so much that should of been said that is not in the Bible, things that could of helped mankind, and I say this, why would any God write a book? <br /><br />I know Christians will read this.......use that brain you have........once you do... watch.....you'll see the cards fall one by one, for this is what happened to me. I have literally cried because realizing you were deceived on such a scale is heart breaking, someone like myself who does not like to show this has been reduced to tears at one point because I can no longer believe the bible to be anymore then a man made book written by ignorant and primitive people, to find your whole world view is a lie and that the doctrines you upheld are twisted and morally bankrupt, to find out that much of the bible makes no sense when at one time you did, to find out that you were playing yourself with all the signs you saw, yes, it's truly is saddening, let this show some of you, Christians, I say that to you, what it may be like to leave the faith, a true hell induced nightmare and the aftermath effects can be grand, some people may never fully recover from it, and to that I have no words to say. <br /><br />It is I who is now looked down upon by these people because I can't make sense of the stuff in the bible, I'm the fool to these people who say there is no god, I'm to prideful, I'm not humble enough, I was never truly saved, or that I'm angry with God, or that I know he is true in my heart, or I been given to the devil, or that my faith was tested and I failed, or that I want to live a sinful life, to that I say......words alone cannot describe what I could say.<br /><br /><br />I'm sorry I said things not relating to the topic, but the using the bible for morals is not good, much of the bible is morally wrong and the bible filled with bad advise and another thing is.... well.......much of the bible is useless in how to live life in the real world.......it is useless book for the most part. <br /><br />I'm done with my rant.<br /><br />John.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-52826935145112054162011-07-28T22:26:45.748-05:002011-07-28T22:26:45.748-05:00Let me add to my last message. way to many Christi...Let me add to my last message. way to many Christians and people who believe in the supernatural stuff, many of them resort to personal experiences in the end. how the hell do you prove any of this stuff using logic or rationality or critical thinking skills or good reason or hard evidence or the scientific way......so far not one can do it, thus many have to resort to personal experiences and emotions. I've seen things they were not there, I've heard things that were not there, I've had a vision of a disaster in New York, had intense vivid dreams of standing before Jesus and then be set on fire by a demon, and other intense hallucinations, I've seen coincidences and signs that I thought were from God, but they were only very wacky coincidences, point is, it's all in your head and I know first hand, and you do not need to be mentally ill to know these things. <br /><br />If the supernatural can ever be proved naturally then it's no longer supernatural. the thing about real supernatural is it can never be touched by science...because it's all magic. what I find funny is that if I told people I believed superman was real I would looked at as nuts, but billions believe in a all-powerful super man...it is called God........the sheer hypocrisy is mind bending. <br /><br />I hate it when Christians tell me I'm being deceived by some invisible entity called the devil or using my brain means I'm to prideful and arrogant....what a crock of shit. how the hell did I believe in this shit without question at one time?<br /><br />This is why I commend Matt of all people.......someone who was once in the faith and believed the bible was the word of God, but he used reason, logic, evidence, rationality, common sense, his brain, and did not let the fear of hell nor his emotions or feelings or anything like that override these things......that is it least what I gathered from what I know about his story. he is someone who once breathed the faith like many have and has seen it does not hold up when tested, though some would deny this.<br /><br />John.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-16112844920355566972011-07-28T18:17:51.553-05:002011-07-28T18:17:51.553-05:00There might not be a point to this here, but I hav...There might not be a point to this here, but I have to get this off somewhere since going to a hardcore serious Christian to a full fledged skeptical atheist. Matt if you are reading this.....I'm the one who emailed you about in how you came out of the faith so easily...if you remember, I'm the same person, but I find Christianity of all forms to be repugnant. it's a blight upon humanity and it makes me sick what it does to your mind.....I know it all to well. it's a religion that has been giving to much respect when it deserves none, it's been barely questioned and I would love to see this blood cult die before I die myself, and being 25 years old, I might see it die a little bit before my death, but it will take a long time for it to die out completely.....it will die....as all religions of this time will one day. atheists and skeptics for far to long have stayed silent, but it's time they speak up more.....no more letting the lies spread like a disease, man's inability to cope with real reality is something as well.......I know, because I'm struggling to come to grips with their being no God, no soul, no heaven or second chance and no supernatural, I know it's hard to accept, but Christians need to realize that their religion will die one day...all these religions will one day die and the sad part I will never get to see it. I commend anyone who accepts you get one chance in life and faces reality that once your dead that you will be forever dead.....you are the strong ones, something I've seen no Christian including I myself never did at one point, I now commend you all.<br /><br /><br />Christianity is so big becasue this cult is driven with much fear and guilt and manipulation and bribery and it heaps on human emotions to override their logical and rational brain......it makes me sick in what it did to me........my brain was shut off the whole time I was in it.......from the Adam and Eve story all the way to revelation.....it's all a heaping pile of rubbish that makes no sense. Christians like I was once myself have no clue in just how messed up the idea of eternal hell is, but the biggest strike on the God of the bible is that he would be no different then a all powerful Harry Potter person would.....to believe in a all powerful God is to believe in magic.<br /><br /><br />Everyone take care and Matt, Russell, Don, Jeff, Tracie, Jen, Martin, all of you guys are smart and I commend you all. Take care.<br /><br /><br />John.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-70986921188760884082011-07-28T18:16:47.551-05:002011-07-28T18:16:47.551-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com