tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post3832219507373878140..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Theomatics againUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-80685189515719763122008-05-03T01:02:00.000-05:002008-05-03T01:02:00.000-05:00I stopped reading at the all bold message. I don'...I stopped reading at the all bold message. I don't know what this theomatics thing is, but it sounds awful.RilianSharphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00153117604262687451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-12199584874317902008-03-15T14:37:00.000-05:002008-03-15T14:37:00.000-05:00Atheists can't win for losing, though. When I publ...Atheists can't win for losing, though. When I publish an Eve, I use actual conversations I've had; summaries, of course, but as close as I can get and still fit it into 6 panels. And if you google the strip, time and time again, I'm accused, by religious people online, of creating straw men--claiming Xians would never say anything as stupid as I portray.<BR/><BR/>If you post the conversation, you're called to task. If you don't, you're accused of making up the conversation.<BR/><BR/>I think people need to just stop being ashamed of what they say. If it was good enough for me to express out loud, why should I be freaked out to see it quoted somewhere? ESPECIALLY if I write as though I'm presenting really brilliant ideas. If they're so brilliant, I should be flattered to see them presented for public scrutiny.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the presentation of theomatics in this article will win some converts. If not, maybe it wasn't as brilliant as it seemed when it was first being written?<BR/><BR/>I post pretty much the same things publicly as I do privately. And I'm cool with someone critiquing me. If I wasn't, I'd never survive the online criticisms of Eve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-4687339208564577802008-03-13T22:22:00.000-05:002008-03-13T22:22:00.000-05:00More thoughts on the netiquette subject:This is on...More thoughts on the netiquette subject:<BR/><BR/>This is one of the reasons why I never write something in private email that I would be ashamed to have everyone in the world hear me say. I personally feel that anything I write is fair game. ESPECIALLY, I would not start private emailing somebody to indicate that I do not like them or think they are "brain dead," unless I thought I could back it up. You do that and you are just asking to get published.<BR/><BR/>Case in point, there is a chap who has been reading my blog persistently and posting ad hominem attacks on his own website that he thinks are "rebuttals." Can I stop him from obsessing over my blog? No. Do I care? Not particularly; I just don't respond to him and don't grace him with any back links. If I wrote something that I was ashamed of then I might be concerned about him reposting my words. But if I didn't stand behind what I wrote then I wouldn't be blogging it, would I?<BR/><BR/>Everything you put on the web or in email is public domain. I think that's just a fact of 21st century life. If you don't like to sound ridiculous then don't send messages that are ridiculous.<BR/><BR/>And as I said, Rhology, I totally support you posting this or anyone else's emailed conversations on your own blog.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-69543002820680047952008-03-13T20:40:00.000-05:002008-03-13T20:40:00.000-05:00Well, I think anyone can see that this is hardly a...Well, I think anyone can see that this is hardly an issue of me "falling for" something. Anyway...Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-23678176200003682502008-03-13T18:07:00.000-05:002008-03-13T18:07:00.000-05:00Boy, Russell, you got some live ones here.Sure wou...Boy, Russell, you got some live ones here.<BR/><BR/>Sure would love to see the rules of "blog etiquette" that say you can't reproduce salient portions of a private email, if they make for a worthwhile topic of conversation. And naturally, you didn't post the idiot's name or email address itself, as you pointed out.<BR/><BR/>What we see here is very typical. Some Christian wrote you an email in which he did a laughably bad job of telling you your debunking of "theomatics" was wrong. You defended yourself well while making him look stupid. <BR/><BR/>Unable to defend himself further, he tries instead to play the victim card and be a Christian martyr to your horrible violation of "etiquette." He hopes people will be as angry and indignant as he's pretending to be, and thus ignore the real topic at hand: to wit, that theomatics is twaddle and he couldn't dedebunk your debunkiferationality.<BR/><BR/>No one is falling for this childish game, except, predictably, Rhology. Christians are good at childish games.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-83048897726761044202008-03-13T16:04:00.000-05:002008-03-13T16:04:00.000-05:00I disagree with whoever it was that took you to ta...I disagree with whoever it was that took you to task, Rho.<BR/><BR/><I>The good news - Gary is a Christian. Christians are good at forgiving.</I><BR/><BR/>[snort]Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-57875607098617041282008-03-13T16:02:00.001-05:002008-03-13T16:02:00.001-05:00I am sorry to hear that you feel betrayed, but in ...I am sorry to hear that you feel betrayed, but in fact there is no implied promise of privacy in an email conversation. I did not identify you by full name or email.<BR/><BR/>Also, if you've read the original theomatics page then you probably saw that I've already posted a previous email exchange there. Netiquette generally indicates that anything you email to a stranger is pretty much public domain. ESPECIALLY since you started off with a rather rude ad hominem.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, if you would like me to make any changes to the post short of deleting it entirely, such as changing your name and removing the preceding comment, I will do so.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-77629712907443832022008-03-13T16:02:00.000-05:002008-03-13T16:02:00.000-05:00And after I recently got taken to task (by atheist...And after I recently got taken to task (by atheist bloggers) for posting a private correspondence I had sent to an atheist, without referring at all to him or saying who he was or posting anythg he had written! <BR/>Kazim, you broke blog etiquette. An apology is in order if you did not have Gary's permission.<BR/>The good news - Gary is a Christian. Christians are good at forgiving.Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-72651831428781101122008-03-13T15:53:00.000-05:002008-03-13T15:53:00.000-05:00Firstly, I certainly wrote thinking that it was a ...Firstly, I certainly wrote thinking that it was a personal email, with a personal messege to a person... who, responded to me personally... to which I responded persoally back. To see this posted in public is a betrayal of confindence and intent... even a tresspass of assumed privacy. But... what else could be expected from an "atheist" !!! - Garydebunkadefiledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13418768924322069718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-57706378286095742732008-03-13T13:47:00.000-05:002008-03-13T13:47:00.000-05:00Oh, my bad, Kazim and Martin. Sorry for the goof....Oh, my bad, Kazim and Martin. Sorry for the goof. :-)<BR/><BR/>I know that not all my positions are shared by all Christians. Pretty obvious. I was encouraging Gary to change his mind on the issue, much like you are doing in your post. Think about it a little - if I ask someone to change their mind, does that assume that their opinion started off the SAME as mine, or different? <BR/>Besides, just b/c he likes theomatics or whatever it's called doesn't mean we're in diff sects. Maybe you know sthg I don't, though.Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-33194890116307530212008-03-13T13:41:00.000-05:002008-03-13T13:41:00.000-05:00First: Hey! Martin didn't post this! I know I onl...First: Hey! Martin didn't post this! I know I only post here about 10-20% as much as Martin, but debunking MY posts, not his! :)<BR/><BR/>Second: I'm sorry to break this to you, Rho, but your opinions on what is vacuous and unimportant aren't shared by Christians universally. It seems that there are a lot of people out there whose perception of Christianity DOES hinge largely on the truth of theomatics, or bible codes, or other numerological quackery.<BR/><BR/>You may not like it, but I'm betting you'll have just as much luck encouraging him to renounce his religion (as he sees it) as we would have asking you give up yours. You're officially in different sects, dude. Wars have been fought for much less.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-21706440659018952462008-03-13T11:09:00.000-05:002008-03-13T11:09:00.000-05:00Oy. This is a HUGE waste of time. Not so much fo...Oy. This is a HUGE waste of time. Not so much for you, Martin, but for Gary. <BR/>Gary, read the Word, forget the codes. Engage your mind away from this vacuity and towards topics that matter, like debunking the more central of Martin's posts. It's not all that hard and it's certainly better worth your time.Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-27497072311657406472008-03-12T13:44:00.000-05:002008-03-12T13:44:00.000-05:00So, just like the lottery is a tax on people who c...So, just like the lottery is a tax on people who cannot do math, theomatics is religion for the same people?Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-5410100168788919312008-03-12T13:32:00.000-05:002008-03-12T13:32:00.000-05:00Thanks for the link to the program. I love this so...Thanks for the link to the program. I love this sort of thing--like finding references to the JFK assassination "hidden" in Moby Dick.<BR/><BR/>Naturally they claim that this magical methodology won't work for anything except the Bible. I put in my favourite number (37) into your program and the last three lines were especially auspicious!FTWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11804709824000870112noreply@blogger.com