tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post3794300729669431389..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Flowchart: Does God send people to hell?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-59346330394701499672010-09-06T09:51:28.137-05:002010-09-06T09:51:28.137-05:00Better put this (http://i.imgur.com/DmzeA.png) ove...Better put this (http://i.imgur.com/DmzeA.png) over any flow chart you present to a religious person, just in case.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245646491542058291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-22394357570312360642010-09-03T16:43:39.543-05:002010-09-03T16:43:39.543-05:00Here's a better and more accurate version of t...Here's a better and more accurate version of the flow chart.<br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=514509&l=3c0227515b&id=1831265358Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-88922039273417874622010-09-03T14:31:19.768-05:002010-09-03T14:31:19.768-05:00??mikekoz68https://www.blogger.com/profile/02168101511381957884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-26388807336967533392010-09-03T14:30:03.339-05:002010-09-03T14:30:03.339-05:00That was an excellent reply by poster 'Che'...That was an excellent reply by poster 'Che'-how could someone's heaven not contain the people they love the most? If you can have what you want in heaven, couldn't you just wish the person there? Thanx for this, I'm going to use it and as far as a t-shirt goes-- "Christianity-that's messed up!"mikekoz68https://www.blogger.com/profile/02168101511381957884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-68610523251778238572010-09-03T11:42:07.337-05:002010-09-03T11:42:07.337-05:00Views on the afterlife are apparently denomination...Views on the afterlife are apparently denominational. the Tract Society of Pennsylvania published in Watch Tower magazine:<br />"WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES: At death, humans cease to exist. 'The dead...are conscious of nothing at all,' states Ecclesiastes 9:5. Since the dead cannot know, feel, or experience anything, they cannot harm-or help-the living.-Psalm 146:3, 4."Dances_with_the_beasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12166734317886639473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-66072622268543659832010-09-03T08:18:33.587-05:002010-09-03T08:18:33.587-05:00"That is so messed up."
Denise isn'..."That is so messed up."<br /><br />Denise isn't denying the chain of logic, she's making a judgement on the fact that Matt is holding God responsible. It's "messed up" that Matt and others would dare place the responsibility for a system created by an omnipotent god on that god.<br /><br />In their story we are all created as imperfect by a perfect, all-powerful being who can't stand our imperfection; so he sends us to a place of eternal torture, and that's our fault.<br /><br />Denise, and other Christians like her, are whipped dogs.Mark Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12082856602483276803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-67132905654321502302010-09-03T07:05:52.300-05:002010-09-03T07:05:52.300-05:00It sort of reminds me of this Winnie the Pooh epis...It sort of reminds me of this Winnie the Pooh episode where he's following these tracks in the snow. He keeps following them and following them, and gets more and more concerned as more and more people seem to join the party he's following.<br /><br />As it turns out, he's following his own tracks in a big circle, and just doesn't realize it.<br /><br />I think a lot of theists don't comprehend the circular reasoning they employ often because they're so focused on one point at a time, or otherwise can't comprehend much beyond that single point, that they don't grasp the overall "flow" of their logic, and the problems it has.JThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881036419280903737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-59969500924830006932010-09-02T17:41:50.352-05:002010-09-02T17:41:50.352-05:00Rober K here again.
The entire "no" sid...Rober K here again.<br /><br />The entire "no" side basically a quick and fast, and I admit a bit sloppy, take on the problem of evil. Its not exactly the problem of evil. Basically the first couple of questions are is he all powerful and the bottom would be is he all good. <br /><br />Also I did drawn this up as something to be humorous and not taken so seriously. I do really enjoy your feed back though and glad it sparked a fun conversation! Hope everyone enjoyed it!Switchblade.Kulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12430435104882537930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-1123197980935826112010-09-02T14:03:29.217-05:002010-09-02T14:03:29.217-05:00Dammit, I'm late again, everything has been sa...Dammit, I'm late again, everything has been said already...<br />But I like Johnboy's idea.<br />And the chart too. Although it has, as Matt pointed out, some mistakes, but such charts would be great to show Christians what they believe. yeah, it sounds ridiculous, but they don't really know what they believe in. (Well, if they did, they would have stopped believing. But it takes time realizing what a primitive, bloodthirsty and crazy god "gives humans moral compass")ernobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13872778498473437876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-79864276661484132672010-09-02T13:58:51.552-05:002010-09-02T13:58:51.552-05:00@ Curt
Than they're either a new religion who...@ Curt<br /><br />Than they're either a new religion who hasn't chosen a new name yet, or don't know their own mythology<br /><br />Either way they're morons.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-74191078069538001662010-09-02T11:27:29.077-05:002010-09-02T11:27:29.077-05:00skepticmatt wrote:
"There is a right answer w...skepticmatt wrote:<br /><i>"There is a right answer within the context of the christian mythology."</i><br /><br />Not really - in polls I've seen, about a third of US Christians don't believe in hell.Curt Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08048312089881459521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-2253267044177640522010-09-02T11:16:19.501-05:002010-09-02T11:16:19.501-05:00It is too small. I can't read. I need to know ...It is too small. I can't read. I need to know if God is going to send me to Hell.<br /><br />If he is, I am going to live it upSullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10272557466790129869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-21257224104520494102010-09-02T11:06:46.748-05:002010-09-02T11:06:46.748-05:00@ Che
I have though of a similar notion with rega...@ Che<br /><br />I have though of a similar notion with regards to your statement about people in heaven, happily knowing that their children are in hell. The only way I could make it work would be either if the pearly gate was really just the door to some parallel universe where each individual is surrounded by alternate reality versions of those who wouldn't have made the cut here, or if people in heaven just forgot everything. <br /><br /><br />@ OnceProudKnight<br /><br />It's funny how flowery wording, such as "Yahweh's Nature", "by definition", etc can push emotional buttons. If we described it the way we do everything else, then it would seem as ridiculous as the notion that Vampires cannot enter a home unless invited. <br /><br />"God can't forgive without a blood sacrifice. No, it's not that he's a sociopathic prick or anything. He is physically unable to. He starts bleeding from the nose, the universe becomes blurry, and he has to kill a rabbit to fix it. Of course, after about 4,000 years, he found a loophole. <br /><br />You might expect an all-knowing God to have figured this out much sooner, but he wasn't trying very hard. He created a human version of himself and ticked off the right people. That's all it took. He could have just been born with a Samarai sword and impaled himself on day one, but he spent about 30 years wandering around in the desert first. The worst part is that the same rule that requires blood sacrifices also prohibits anesthesia. No pain, no forgiveness."<br /><br />I guess this is why I never know what to say when a Christian remarks about how ridiculous Scientology seems.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14299046445235601258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-76982659404161631582010-09-02T10:39:13.588-05:002010-09-02T10:39:13.588-05:00So, what software did Robert K use to create the f...So, what software did Robert K use to create the flowchart? Off-topic, but I'm a programmer (if you can call php programming), so just curious.Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14299046445235601258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-90999013477404126732010-09-02T08:23:07.623-05:002010-09-02T08:23:07.623-05:00Oh please, she was going to hang up because of how...Oh please, she was going to hang up because of how closed minded you were anyway. I think she was even getting ready to say that before Matt offended her Victorian sensesInghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-91306116973968913602010-09-02T04:07:01.475-05:002010-09-02T04:07:01.475-05:00Why is "God" always in the singular?
Cat...Why is "God" always in the singular?<br />Catholix, for example, have at least 5 gods:<br />The Father, the Son, the Holy Casper, Mary, and last but by no means least: Lucifer, who can apparently beat the other 4 combined without breaking a sweat. If a mythical being can defeat 4 gods with ease, they deserve the epithet "god".<br /><br />I urge all atheists to never again employ the singular when referring to an interlocutor's fevered delusions. It is effective consciousness-raising to employ the plural in all cases of the nominative, genitive, dative and accusative.Michael Kingsford Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15610344772081162910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-40283739157416967952010-09-02T04:04:44.759-05:002010-09-02T04:04:44.759-05:00The only problem I have with this is that the deci...The only problem I have with this is that the decision points should be n-ary.<br /><br />The options are "yes", "no" and "fuck".David McNerneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05607188814624253820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-82424909515870150982010-09-02T02:18:36.806-05:002010-09-02T02:18:36.806-05:00If I didn't get nitpicky, nobody would recogni...If I didn't get nitpicky, nobody would recognize me.<br /><br />The entire "no" side is simply wrong.<br /><br />Did God create hell?<br />No.<br /><br />That doesn't lead to the conclusion you've drawn. If anything, it leads to more questions.<br /><br />The problem here is that Denise was just wrong on so many levels, but we didn't get to point that out because she's so fragile and sensitive that a single occurrence of a word that she considers naughty is enough to give her the fucking vapors.<br /><br />Bleh.Matt D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06865398618141711897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-64715153122912535732010-09-02T01:49:15.416-05:002010-09-02T01:49:15.416-05:00I demand a "thats messed up!" t-shirt wi...I demand a "thats messed up!" t-shirt with the red Atheist Letter.<br /><br />It has officially become the christian version of "you dun goof'd"Johnboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428622628537697916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-86402049880703850552010-09-02T01:26:23.669-05:002010-09-02T01:26:23.669-05:00That's Just Messed Up!
I like it :DThat's Just Messed Up!<br /><br /><br /><br />I like it :DSkeptiCanadianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15224899329254277205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-69297155945397225372010-09-01T23:36:30.186-05:002010-09-01T23:36:30.186-05:00Nice diarrhea of the keyboard there DM...Nice diarrhea of the keyboard there DM...Switchblade.Kulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12430435104882537930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-59095602920771747042010-09-01T22:49:40.378-05:002010-09-01T22:49:40.378-05:00What I found hilarious was that Denise found the u...What I found hilarious was that Denise found the utterance of one single word too offensive to tolerate, yet she apparently doesn't find it at all offensive to tell someone they deserve to be tortured eternally in Hell.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135539424938609214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-48707085579896383512010-09-01T22:41:36.753-05:002010-09-01T22:41:36.753-05:00 Sorry, didn't catch your correction until... Sorry, didn't catch your correction until after I posted.Pvblivshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931937272948538181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-23620107039465396852010-09-01T22:39:11.643-05:002010-09-01T22:39:11.643-05:00 It appears that you may have mis-read the cha... It appears that you may have mis-read the chart. If the caller answers "no" to any of the initial questions, the chart indicates that nothing the alleged god is supposed to have said should be taken seriously.Pvblivshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17931937272948538181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-44053647847443323362010-09-01T22:09:43.275-05:002010-09-01T22:09:43.275-05:00Robert K. here. Correction to the chart. "h...Robert K. here. Correction to the chart. "he says" is in reference to GOD not the caller.Switchblade.Kulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12430435104882537930noreply@blogger.com