tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post3629256149406335258..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: An irrational atheistUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-37403154020886243712008-07-25T21:09:00.000-05:002008-07-25T21:09:00.000-05:00Which is more than Ray Comfort did. Patrick Greene...<B>Which is more than Ray Comfort did. Patrick Greene does not seem to be the kind of person who relishes his privacy.</B><BR/><BR/>But of course. People with persecution complexes/fetishes don't stay anywhere near the closet. They're out and loud and proud and in <I>everyone's</I> face, so that if anyone says so much as "dude, could you tone it down?" they can scream "stop oppressing me!" and go off on how bad they've had it.<BR/><BR/>I mean, we've <I>all</I> seen this with Christians, right? It may be slightly surprising to see it coming from an atheist, but the concept shouldn't be totally foreign.Tom Fosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13796424725228769265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-2307587727788994902008-07-25T20:36:00.000-05:002008-07-25T20:36:00.000-05:00Ok then, point taken. :)Ok then, point taken. :)Jujuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14081187993352622941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-2519589698888395012008-07-24T21:24:00.000-05:002008-07-24T21:24:00.000-05:00Which is more than Ray Comfort did. Patrick Greene...Which is more than Ray Comfort did. Patrick Greene does not seem to be the kind of person who relishes his privacy. <BR/><BR/>/OT: that Digg stuff really slows down the page loading.NALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12244370945682162312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-22221189751835960862008-07-24T19:36:00.000-05:002008-07-24T19:36:00.000-05:00Oh well. So much for my plan of respecting the guy...Oh well. So much for my plan of respecting the guy's privacy by letting him remain unnamed.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-83143922650586586282008-07-24T18:13:00.000-05:002008-07-24T18:13:00.000-05:00Hey, if we're going to quote scripture, Psalms 14 ...Hey, if we're going to quote scripture, Psalms 14 whatever is a late arrival!<BR/><BR/>GOD's Very First Commandment:<BR/>I. "Have no other gods before me!"<BR/><BR/>1. God acknowledges that there are other gods, so much for monotheism!<BR/>2. God commands us to have no other gods before him.<BR/><BR/>I follow it faithfully.<BR/><BR/>I have no gods before having any!<BR/><BR/>Frish - Fearless Leader, LA BrightsFrishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12415060237046978101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-53674606571872043522008-07-24T16:27:00.000-05:002008-07-24T16:27:00.000-05:00First, who here discusses their personal life, inc...First, who here discusses their personal life, including details of their marriage and their positions on religion with cashiers? How does that come up?<BR/><BR/>Cashier: Did you find everything ok today?<BR/>Patrick: Yes, just like I found my honey bunny here. You know we've been married for 30 years and our marriage is based on atheism<BR/><BR/>Wtf?<BR/><BR/>Second, how does one have a marriage based on atheism? I thought you base a marriage on love, compatibility, and those sorts of things. How do you base a marriage on doubting the validity of god claims?<BR/><BR/>Third, how does this warrant suing Walmart?PhillyChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03355892225956705948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-30668058722576544162008-07-24T16:22:00.000-05:002008-07-24T16:22:00.000-05:00That's hilarious. Bravo, guys.Oh, and Matt, why do...That's hilarious. Bravo, guys.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and Matt, why do you always have to be such an asshole? You know, by calmly and succinctly explaining errors in people's thinking. You know, it's intolerant to not confirm someone's deeply held beliefs.<BR/><BR/>Or that's what I'm regularly told anyway.<BR/><BR/>But yeah, the bumper sticker is most certainly correct in this case, and it doesn't surprise me. I've been an atheist for years, and I've met loads of irrational ones. Which just goes to show you that fools compose the entire human spectrum: Atheist, Theist, Black, White, Swedish, or Norwegian, we're all just gobshites.<BR/><BR/>If only someone had told the mystery writer.<BR/><BR/>With threats of legal action against Ray, he's coming dangerously close to Pulling a Yomin™Inky, Pinky, Blinky and Clydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12705763038336992299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-45948299705000986762008-07-24T16:15:00.000-05:002008-07-24T16:15:00.000-05:00OMFG, nal, just when I thought it wasn't possible ...OMFG, nal, just when I thought it wasn't possible for my opinion of Patrick to drop any further.<BR/><BR/>He sued Wal-Mart because one greeter said something he doesn't like? Does Wal-Mart need little warning stickers on the door saying "The opinions of the greeters do not reflect that of Wal-Mart"? It's like he's dying to make sure that big corporations assert even more draconian control over their employees than they do now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-79576515713467679372008-07-24T15:57:00.000-05:002008-07-24T15:57:00.000-05:00Potential Law SuitPatrick Greene gets around:Relig...<A HREF="http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2008/07/potential-law-suit.html" REL="nofollow">Potential Law Suit</A><BR/><BR/>Patrick Greene gets around:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://atheists.meetup.com/472/messages/boards/thread/3529418" REL="nofollow">Religious discrimination at Walmart</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://atheists.meetup.com/472/polls/94472/" REL="nofollow">What do you think of Patrick Greene's handling of the situation he encountered at Walmart?</A>NALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12244370945682162312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-29684802458132613012008-07-24T12:38:00.000-05:002008-07-24T12:38:00.000-05:00Martin blatantly tried to steal my thunder, but I'...Martin blatantly tried to steal my thunder, but I'll be going ahead with the rant on this subject on Sunday. ;)<BR/><BR/>I've had a continuing dialog with the individual (though that's probably not an accurate portrayal), during which he has claimed that the bumper sticker isn't opinion, it's a lie, it's false advertising and it's illegal.<BR/><BR/>He also forwarded a congratulatory message from someone who is supposedly the head of another large atheist organization - as if an argument from authority would slip past me.<BR/><BR/>He's demonstrating that, in his case, the bumper sticker is accurate.Matt D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06865398618141711897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-50426880590413179372008-07-24T12:31:00.000-05:002008-07-24T12:31:00.000-05:00Juju,As Jen pointed out, we did respond directly. ...Juju,<BR/><BR/>As Jen pointed out, we did respond directly. The writer's responses to those letters has been to repeat his silly claims that the sticker is somehow "false advertising" and therefore "illegal." Clearly his emotions have clouded his reason in this situation, and he has some weird personal stake in not just blowing the whole thing off.<BR/><BR/>It's doubly foolish, because it's not as if atheists don't print up plenty of their own bumper stickers that Christians would find offensive as well. Again, there's nothing libelous or actionable about simply hurting someone's feelings.<BR/><BR/>As for publicly humiliating the writer, well, that's his problem. Remember, out of respect for the man's privacy I have not revealed his name, so if anyone's publicly humiliating him, it's himself, by freely emailing lots of atheist groups boasting of his silly letter to Comfort. I do think it's important to discuss this kind of behavior publicly, because, while I expect such stupidity from theistic wingnuts (vide the excessive hysteria that has come in the wake of PZ's "Crackergate"), I hold atheists to higher standards of intellectual integrity.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-47086633324146397192008-07-24T11:59:00.000-05:002008-07-24T11:59:00.000-05:00Well that's unfortunate. Still, I find it remarkab...Well that's unfortunate. Still, I find it remarkable that here on the atheist side we have no qualms about calling out our own on bullshit. You don't see that much on the other side since if you embrace the idea that the ends justify the means, then it's all good. <BR/><BR/>I think Don's point is hilarious, btw.PhillyChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03355892225956705948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-13737198287576995402008-07-24T10:48:00.000-05:002008-07-24T10:48:00.000-05:00Atheists don't need their bumper sticker to match ...Atheists don't need their bumper sticker to match the Muslims' teddy bear or Catholics' cracker.<BR/><BR/>Those bumper stickers would actually be useful as an identifier of people to not be bothered with.Zurahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06325048684652466640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-89008581367308122352008-07-24T10:37:00.000-05:002008-07-24T10:37:00.000-05:00Is there a chance the letter to ray was meant to b...Is there a chance the letter to ray was meant to be sarcastic? ray has been making his own threats of lawsuits over the Creationist Day bumper stickers, as well:<BR/><BR/>http://disco-igno.blogspot.com/2008/07/potential-law-skirt.html<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying this guy isn't for real, but could these threats be connected?bugsouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05647771957972729350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-9178023961194803482008-07-24T10:20:00.000-05:002008-07-24T10:20:00.000-05:00Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to send thi...<I>Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to send this reply to the author directly? Why attempt to publicly humiliate him? Did he he give permission to publish the exchange?</I><BR/><BR/>Several people did respond to him directly, and their response was not subtle. His actions could potentially impact a lot of people in the atheist community, and not in a good way. For this reason alone, I think a public discussion of what he did is appropriate.<BR/><BR/>As far as publicly humiliating him, how has anyone done this? His name isn't published here, so you won't know who he is unless he's dumb enough to actually file a lawsuit.Rational Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14122282788630579139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-46563190584267896422008-07-24T09:14:00.000-05:002008-07-24T09:14:00.000-05:00I personally embrace the idea that even a fool can...I personally embrace the idea that even a fool can figure out there is no god. I'm not quite sure where that leaves believers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-73181704368737390482008-07-24T07:09:00.000-05:002008-07-24T07:09:00.000-05:00Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to send thi...Wouldn't it have been more appropriate to send this reply to the author directly? Why attempt to publicly humiliate him? Did he he give permission to publish the exchange?Jujuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14081187993352622941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-7432082155667407492008-07-24T00:55:00.000-05:002008-07-24T00:55:00.000-05:00Nice. Y'know, I wouldn't be surprised if this clow...Nice. Y'know, I wouldn't be surprised if this clown is a theo mole trying to make us all look like hair-trigger reactionary cranks. He couldn't have done a better job of completely misrepresenting us if he was Ray "Hand Banana" Comfort himself. With friends like this guy, who the hell needs Ben Stein and Anne Coulter?<BR/><BR/>With all the millions of reasonable, quiet, non-retarded atheists out there, it only takes one like this guy to confirm that "strident, militant fundamentalist" tag that theists like to pin on us constantly.<BR/><BR/><BR/>To the anonymous "victor": do us all a favour and keep your bloody trap shut. Thank you in advance.hank_sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18406469261027721291noreply@blogger.com