tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post3287366031920826903..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Liars, Lunatics, Lords, Legends and Lemmings...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-9430398405478692902008-11-03T04:51:00.000-06:002008-11-03T04:51:00.000-06:00I like dealing with that idiot, Jinx.I'm surprised...I like <A HREF="http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2008/10/god-of-old-testament-is-different-from.html?showComment=1225383660000#c7995844842024580379" REL="nofollow">dealing with that idiot, Jinx</A>.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I'm surprised they let my comment slide, especially since I made note of how idiotic he acted on TheologyWeb, a xian site.<BR/><BR/><BR/>There's one guy, <A HREF="http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2008/10/atheist-lie-list.html?showComment=1225653300000#c6430311739380081086" REL="nofollow">Dani'El</A> who's a real nut job, as is detailed <A HREF="http://www.skepticalcommunity.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=410681#410681" REL="nofollow">here</A>. Don't know if anyone's taken notice of him yet, but when 2009 ends without his predictions coming true, what do you think will happen?Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-42953908138262039212008-11-03T04:31:00.000-06:002008-11-03T04:31:00.000-06:00I've posted over there, too.I bet mine won't make ...I've posted over there, too.<BR/><BR/>I bet mine won't make it, though.<BR/><BR/>=====<BR/><B>AllFiredUp said...</B> <BR/><BR/><I>Tilia<BR/><BR/>I have news for you.<BR/><BR/>Of course the Bible is man made.<BR/><BR/>Duh!<BR/><BR/>It seems atheists think that God was sitting at a desk writing the Bible. I mean is this the level of immaturity in atheists?<BR/><BR/>No, for the last time, God USED MEN to write what we call the Bible.<BR/><BR/>Just like you use a pen to write a letter.<BR/><BR/>Godly men were inspired by the Holy Spirit (God) to compile and write what we have in our hands, known as the Bible.<BR/><BR/>Please atheists, you are not surprising us with your "Man wrote the bible" argument. This has been dealt with so many times, it's amazing that atheists keep bringing it up.<BR/><BR/>God wrote with his own hand, the Law the 10 commandments, He also spoke to Moses and the Israelites about the Levitical and Sacrificial Laws - these were written down by Moses. <BR/><BR/>God told Ezekiel and a host of other prophets to write down what God was saying.<BR/><BR/>God told John the Apostle to write down what he was seeing and what God was saying.<BR/><BR/>Godly men were writing the Chronicles of Kings, and the history of Israel.<BR/><BR/>Through men God wrote what we have in our hands - the Bible.<BR/><BR/>Sorry I have to ask, are atheists normally this dense?</I><BR/>No. We know that you people believe that your "God" dictated or somehow gave the words of the bible to people. For you to think that we believe otherwise only shows how dense <B>you</B> are. <BR/><BR/>When atheists say that the bible is "man-made" we mean that it was thought up and written entirely by people, with no input from any supernatural source. <BR/><BR/>Does that help your understanding any?<BR/><BR/>Try to think a little bit before you run around calling other people "immature" or "dense".<BR/><BR/>Thanks for playing.Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-35830119895884678322008-10-31T13:44:00.000-05:002008-10-31T13:44:00.000-05:00"You were never a Christian."If I follow the logic..."You were never a Christian."<BR/><BR/>If I follow the logic correctly here, anyone who deconverts from Christianity must not have ever been a Christian to begin with. If true, then the definition of a Christian is someone who never deconverts.<BR/><BR/>By that logic, until a person dies without deconverting, it is premature to call him or her a Christian.<BR/><BR/>Therefore, Ray Comfort is not a Christian.<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, why is it when someone says that she's a Christian, people like Ray Comfort accept it without question? Whereas if someone says they <I>used</I> to be a Christian, he has to whip out a resume and a pedigree, proving that they were an ELITE Christian? Every time Matt mentions his deconversion, he has to 'qualify' it by citing his ministry training, etc.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15321466949515992295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-51714392780551308922008-10-31T13:35:00.000-05:002008-10-31T13:35:00.000-05:00Your second post went through also. No reply this...Your second post went through also. No reply this time from Ray, shocking....BeamStalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772110446629492132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-2899131360998067522008-10-31T06:46:00.000-05:002008-10-31T06:46:00.000-05:00Ray's whole enterprise smacks of religious opportu...Ray's whole enterprise smacks of religious opportunism, pure and simple. He uses the ad populum fallacy when it suits him by, as has been pointed out, quote mining and distilling their achievements into a few paragraphs, as if any of this had any bearing on the existence of God. I think we're all pretty confident he'd abandon them and castigate them as infidels if it suited him. You can't argue logic with someone like that. He abandoned it long ago for deceitful politicking on behalf of his Christian agenda.FrodoSaveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15224011199139875343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-20618072341863826472008-10-30T19:35:00.000-05:002008-10-30T19:35:00.000-05:00maddogdelta said..."I checked again, and not only ...maddogdelta said...<BR/>"I checked again, and not only did he respond to you....he didn't address anything you posted."<BR/><BR/>He will *never* respond to this type of content, it challenges the fundamental basis of his belief system to think on or attempt to address such questions. Instead he will do the regular "evade, duck, kick them when they're not looking" Christian technique. It's his psychological protection mechanism.Jason Jarredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17146062153193588900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-40577813103261272752008-10-30T16:12:00.000-05:002008-10-30T16:12:00.000-05:00There are a lot of great responses to the original...There are a lot of great responses to the original blog and your response to it. Fantastic!Jennifer Juniperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13913533558610258500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-50737686262913934862008-10-30T14:55:00.000-05:002008-10-30T14:55:00.000-05:00The "list of true Christians" would be something! ...The "list of true Christians" would be something! If any of them ever stopped believing--that would have deep implications.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-51836072259457336602008-10-30T14:28:00.000-05:002008-10-30T14:28:00.000-05:00I will be surprised if he posts that Matt, but you...I will be surprised if he posts that Matt, but you never know. both comments are great.BeamStalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772110446629492132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-54265075119412013322008-10-30T14:20:00.000-05:002008-10-30T14:20:00.000-05:00And, of course, he responds to me directly while I...And, of course, he responds to me directly while I'm not looking. (It happened before my comment here, I just missed it.)<BR/><BR/>Here's my response to his response (and I'll stop doing this after this one)..<BR/><BR/>Ray,<BR/><BR/>I thought that this comment in my initial response:<BR/><BR/>"Additionally, I find it curiously hypocritical that you might claim that I was never "really" a Christian"<BR/><BR/>...would serve as a preemptive acknowledgment that I actually do understand your position and anticipated your claim that I was a pretender.<BR/><BR/>I've noted many times that you're entitled to your view and that by your definition I was a false convert. In fact, I happen to agree with you - I <B>was</B> a false convert...but the reason I agree with you is because I think all conversions are false based on that definition. In addition to the fact that I don't think there's any God to do the calling or redeeming, the definition is circular: 'true' Christians are always true Christians and they couldn't possibly stop believing.<BR/><BR/>I wonder where doubt fits in that definition?<BR/><BR/>However, under the more conventional understanding of Christianity which is rooted in sincere belief in the existence, power, majesty, divinity and authority of Jesus accompanied by a sincere repentance of sins and a sincere desire to live a Christ-like life, following his teachings, developing a personal relationship, fulfilling the obligation of 1 Peter 3:15 to defend the faith and act as a conduit for the Holy Spirit to win souls to Christ....I was, most certainly a Christian.<BR/><BR/>I almost wish you'd have known me at that time, perhaps you'd have been able to tell me then, that I was a pretender - although many of my beliefs and understandings mirrored your own.<BR/><BR/>You're free to dismiss that, but as that seems to place you in the curiously un-Christian position of claiming who is/was isn't/wasn't a 'true' Christian. You've placed yourself in a position where it's impossible that you could be mistaken in your understanding of the subject.<BR/><BR/>How very humble of you.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if you'd be kind enough to make a list of "true" Christians for us.Matt D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06865398618141711897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-29277125664609512632008-10-30T14:19:00.000-05:002008-10-30T14:19:00.000-05:00I can't say that I've ever seen him respond to any...<I>I can't say that I've ever seen him respond to any of my comments directly, </I><BR/><BR/>I checked again, and not only did he respond to you....he didn't address anything you posted.<BR/><BR/>Instead, he doubts you were ever a real scotsman.. I mean Christian.<BR/><BR/>"Matt...your lack or theological understanding is revealing. You were never a Christian "<BR/><BR/>Which I find humorous, as I've listened to a number of AE/Non Prophet's podcasts, and if there is one thing very apparent, is that you have a great deal of theological understanding. You just happened to spit out the kool aid in time. (which is Ray's apparent objection).maddogdeltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657824720032887242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-56743104216970403942008-10-30T14:03:00.000-05:002008-10-30T14:03:00.000-05:00Ray doesn't always block my comments, in fact I'm ...Ray doesn't always block my comments, in fact I'm not sure that he's ever blocked mine - I'm usually careful to either keep it unobjectionable or include some comment that will force him to look more hypocritical if he refuses to post it.<BR/><BR/>I can't say that I've ever seen him respond to any of my comments directly, he hasn't acknowledged the IronChariots.org deconstruction of his Way of the Master episodes and while I'd love to debate him (sort of...I'd actually prefer someone a bit more difficult), there's no way I'm going to pay him to debate - so it probably won't happen.<BR/><BR/>-MattMatt D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06865398618141711897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-48453217852876610902008-10-30T14:00:00.000-05:002008-10-30T14:00:00.000-05:00Matt, your comment made it. I just fail at figuri...Matt, your comment made it. I just fail at figuring out how to link right to your comment.maddogdeltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657824720032887242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-37389977066583733202008-10-30T13:50:00.000-05:002008-10-30T13:50:00.000-05:00One bit of credit (a very minor one) that I will g...One bit of credit (a very minor one) that I will give to Ray's blog, is that he does seem to allow some atheist posts to make it to the comments page. He could have done much better by not making it moderated, so I'm not going to do the happy dance around him.<BR/><BR/>However, when I was in the Navy, one very telling phrase always reminded us to try to never screw up: "One 'Oh shit' wipes out a thousand 'attaboys'." Ray's "Oh shit"? Starting off his blog by Quote Mining Einstein and Hawking. (Ok, that's 2 "oh shit"s, so he's got 1999 more attaboys to make up for it. I don't think he'll get there)<BR/><BR/><BR/>I posted a comment on his previous post, which was quote mining Dawkins, of all people. We'll see if he posts it. (I was very nice and polite. It may get under his radar)<BR/><BR/>Somebody pass me a humanly genetically engineered banana.maddogdeltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17657824720032887242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-66965285499080710312008-10-30T13:15:00.000-05:002008-10-30T13:15:00.000-05:00Nice. I wish I could be that forceful in my replie...Nice. I wish I could be that forceful in my replies.AtheistUnderMaskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15835169901704552498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-34291513793694801262008-10-30T13:07:00.000-05:002008-10-30T13:07:00.000-05:00Quick note - obviously the 'this blog' comment ref...Quick note - obviously the 'this blog' comment refers to Ray's blog, where my response was originally submitted. :)Matt D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06865398618141711897noreply@blogger.com