tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post3239189020071299001..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Another konk on the head with the Reality MalletUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-34920297072941695682010-01-21T15:06:54.460-06:002010-01-21T15:06:54.460-06:00People can see when somebody is acting like a &quo...People can see when somebody is acting like a "fucking bigot" without you needing to apply that exact phrase. When you do that, it makes it super easy for a bigot to pretend to take the high road, claiming he's been mistreated because he presented his bigotry calmly. It allows him to escalate the dialogue with fewer consequences, claiming that you started it. Even if that isn't true, it can be persuasive."<br /><br />Noted and criticism accepted. Again I don't think i was off the handle as people got, but tone is hard to convey over the net. Will be vigilant.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-17630196341272602482010-01-21T10:14:20.537-06:002010-01-21T10:14:20.537-06:00Ing, I value your comments a lot, but I do occasio...Ing, I value your comments a lot, but I do occasionally think you could stand to tone it down a little. You have a tendency to fly off the handle at any perceived slight, and launch into a curse-filled insult tirade before it may be warranted.<br /><br />Note that I'm not against cursing per se, for fuck's sake. ;) I'm not telling you this because I'm thinking of aiming the moderator stick at you. But I have been meaning to mention this, because you would probably get your point across better if you were calmer sometimes.<br /><br />People can see when somebody is acting like a "fucking bigot" without you needing to apply that exact phrase. When you do that, it makes it super easy for a bigot to pretend to take the high road, claiming he's been mistreated because he presented his bigotry calmly. It allows him to escalate the dialogue with fewer consequences, claiming that you started it. Even if that isn't true, it can be persuasive.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-12962035377064531412010-01-21T09:58:48.513-06:002010-01-21T09:58:48.513-06:00Great...now i feel real guilty :(
Again, sorry if...Great...now i feel real guilty :(<br /><br />Again, sorry if i came off like too big of an asshole myself.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-86116437823079152202010-01-20T19:00:32.503-06:002010-01-20T19:00:32.503-06:00Not a problem, I won't be making anymore comme...<i>Not a problem, I won't be making anymore comments, I'll just keep my opinions to myself, since any difference of opinion is apparently not appreciated here.</i><br /><br />Damn right you won't. Because after I told you that you were in danger of being banned for evading questions and acting like a smug smartass, you gave a smug smartass answer. You are now banned. Now go away.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-34490890145831700622010-01-20T18:40:26.841-06:002010-01-20T18:40:26.841-06:00Kazim: "When people stop trying to address w...Kazim: "When people stop trying to address what others are saying and just stick to being a smug smartass, they wear out their welcome very quickly."<br /><br />Not a problem, I won't be making anymore comments, I'll just keep my opinions to myself, since any difference of opinion is apparently not appreciated here.<br /><br />Bornatnight1 [cowering in fear of the moderator stick]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-77261142389907146462010-01-20T13:21:18.452-06:002010-01-20T13:21:18.452-06:00This brazen boldness of Bornatnight1 coupled with ...<i>This brazen boldness of Bornatnight1 coupled with his gleeful ignorance and failure to address the arguments against him, is such a winning combination.</i><br /><br />More than that: It's the kind of combination that gets people banned. When people stop trying to address what others are saying and just stick to being a smug smartass, they wear out their welcome very quickly.<br /><br />Bornatnight1, this is your first and last warning. Watch it.<br /><br />-Kazim (smacking the moderator stick against my palm)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-39061089823866318772010-01-20T12:46:09.696-06:002010-01-20T12:46:09.696-06:00Ing: "I'm apologizing for delivery not co...Ing: "I'm apologizing for delivery not content."<br /><br />Apology accepted. Have a good day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-63121066010783340532010-01-20T12:33:32.154-06:002010-01-20T12:33:32.154-06:00"Whatever, have a nice day."
"Apol...<i>"Whatever, have a nice day."</i><br /><br /><i>"Apology accepted. Have a good day."</i><br /><br />This brazen boldness of Bornatnight1 coupled with his gleeful ignorance and failure to address the arguments against him, is such a winning combination.A-Astrologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08356830004231632087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-85619511196301322702010-01-20T11:53:54.850-06:002010-01-20T11:53:54.850-06:00@Boringnight
Um...no
See I didn't apologize....@Boringnight<br /><br />Um...no<br /><br />See I didn't apologize. I assert everything I said was valid. I'm apologizing for delivery not content. I DID intend offense to you.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-63612592546423624642010-01-20T10:33:18.961-06:002010-01-20T10:33:18.961-06:00Ing: "probably went overboard and didn't ...Ing: "probably went overboard and didn't make my point."<br /><br />Apology accepted. Have a good day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-66883977512041017082010-01-20T06:32:48.336-06:002010-01-20T06:32:48.336-06:00My take was that he clearly wasn't getting it ...My take was that he clearly wasn't getting it explained in black and white text so clearly he needed some brow beating. probably went overboard and didn't make my point.<br /><br />My over all point was that I don't believe for a second that moral guardians like him actually CARE all that much about the children. They're not doing anything to help put unwanted children in homes, they're not working to improve conditions for children, they're not interested in aids babies or the like; until the gays want them. When that happiness they scream MINE MINE MINE. I find this attitude worse than the christian one. The theist one is defensible if the false premise of the bible is accepted, so they're more of naive twats rather than fullblown assholes. <br /><br />I also love Boratatnight's implication that since i care about the issue I must be either a) gay MYSELF or......not straight, b) insane.<br /><br />Either way I'm sure he doesn't want me around children.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-71759433805436354192010-01-19T15:55:03.280-06:002010-01-19T15:55:03.280-06:00Ing, take a few deep breaths, big guy. A lot of us...Ing, take a few deep breaths, big guy. A lot of us have been addressing Bornatnight1's views on this topic, and we generally agree he's in the wrong here and has not thought his ideas through. Getting points across is more effectively done when tempers remain in check, though I'm only too aware of how frustrating these kinds of arguments can be.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-86810843568213643322010-01-19T15:40:52.699-06:002010-01-19T15:40:52.699-06:00Ing: "That's right, don't address any...Ing: "That's right, don't address anything, deflect and attack. Right out of the racist asshole handbook."<br /><br />Whatever, have a nice day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-83747076260311617122010-01-19T14:37:19.692-06:002010-01-19T14:37:19.692-06:00"Apparently, something I said has struck a ne..."Apparently, something I said has struck a nerve, or did you forget to take your medication this morning? Whichever the case, have a nice day."<br /><br />That's right, don't address anything, deflect and attack. Right out of the racist asshole handbook.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-31689654419930897852010-01-19T10:47:15.055-06:002010-01-19T10:47:15.055-06:00Ing:
"There's the FUCKING bigotry you fuc...Ing:<br />"There's the FUCKING bigotry you fucking bigot. The fact you can't see it makes it even worse. You know there's evidence against, it's been shown to you, you admit you have no evidence...and yet your first theory is that "gays are bad". Shame on you. you self righteous moral guardian dipshit." <br /><br />Apparently, something I said has struck a nerve, or did you forget to take your medication this morning? Whichever the case, have a nice day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-9776341158041991302010-01-19T07:45:56.382-06:002010-01-19T07:45:56.382-06:00@Mark
Does letting people hire employees mean tha...@Mark<br /><br />Does letting people hire employees mean that we will have child labour?<br /><br />Does owning pets mean that we will legalize slavery again?<br /><br />Does legalizing sex mean we will legalize rape?<br /><br />Does allowing gun ownership mean that we condone murder?<br /><br />You're argument that 'legalizing something harmless will lead to legalizing something harmful' is absurd and simply a cheap attempt to connect gays with pedophiles. <br /><br />I can do that too look<br /><br />"if we allow religion to continue next thing we know we'll be having crusades!"Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-4891562874264580812010-01-19T07:42:02.884-06:002010-01-19T07:42:02.884-06:00"No, not willing to risk the welfare of the c..."No, not willing to risk the welfare of the children. "<br /><br />There's the FUCKING bigotry you fucking bigot. The fact you can't see it makes it even worse. You know there's evidence against, it's been shown to you, you admit you have no evidence...and yet your first theory is that "gays are bad". Shame on you. you self righteous moral guardian dipshit. You shouldn't be allowed near children at all, your influence would clearly be a corruptive taint as the last thing children need is to be taught to judge people based on irrational revulsion. Rather keep children orphans than give them gay parents. Disgusting. Until you're willing to take on the responsibility for the children who need families YOU GET NO SAY IN THE RISK. You don't care at all about them until the gays want to raise them. You're a bully keeping a toy you don't want away from the other kids in the sand box.<br /><br />You know people say that atheists shouldn't raise children due tot he lack of religion and moral fortitude. You'd take children away from them? black people and Latinos are statistically more likely to be poor and live in crime plagued areas. would you take their children away and give them to whities? There's evidence there that kids are at a bigger risk in that environment, but it'd be insane to impose a bizzaro fuck backwards 'think of the children' authoritative fiat on them. <br /><br />Let me finish by saying I do NOT believe you have good intentions. You don't think that because you care about the children. You think that because you have a bigotry against the gays. You sicken me and shouldn't be giving your opinions on morality to anyone.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-82903145352914382052010-01-19T07:32:09.248-06:002010-01-19T07:32:09.248-06:00"No, not willing to risk the welfare of the c..."No, not willing to risk the welfare of the children. As for hunches, I have none."<br /><br />Ok, it's only common sense that straight people rape their children of the opposite gender more than gay people do.<br /><br />Therefore only gay people should be allowed to raise children and thus only those of the opposite gender.<br /><br />I don't want to risk the childrenInghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-15622822801705489972010-01-19T00:22:53.039-06:002010-01-19T00:22:53.039-06:00Ing: So...you have no evidence but are willing to ...Ing: So...you have no evidence but are willing to hinder other people's freedom due to a 'hunch'?<br /><br />No, not willing to risk the welfare of the children. As for hunches, I have none.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-29884378364273436642010-01-18T20:39:23.395-06:002010-01-18T20:39:23.395-06:00"Martin: Because something other than a tradi..."Martin: Because something other than a traditional marriage, even in name only, is more likely to be acceptable to the majority of people. As for adoption, although I have no evidence either way, as to the parenting skills of gay couples,"<br /><br />So...you have no evidence but are willing to hinder other people's freedom due to a 'hunch'?Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-91176255226355170012010-01-15T16:00:20.229-06:002010-01-15T16:00:20.229-06:00Apparently you have misinterpreted my posts
Yeah,...<i>Apparently you have misinterpreted my posts</i><br /><br />Yeah, sure, I bet that's what the problem is. :-D lol!!Leisha Camdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04768409807832229050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-34814215170902798922010-01-14T11:39:13.257-06:002010-01-14T11:39:13.257-06:00Leisha: Apparently you have misinterpreted my post...Leisha: Apparently you have misinterpreted my posts. No big deal, thanks for the posting tips anyway! Have a good day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-89871012843571134872010-01-14T03:37:52.110-06:002010-01-14T03:37:52.110-06:00Bornatnight1, here's a tip for you. When posti...Bornatnight1, here's a tip for you. When posting comments in an online debate, this is what you should do. 1) Write your comment. 2) Read your comment. 3) Post your comment.<br /><br />Here's an example of why you should follow these three steps.<br /><br />Comment #1:<br /><i>"Like I said, there's literally 30 years worth of research that says our kids are fine, and it's not that hard to find it. Of course, you have to actually care whether what you believe is true."<br /><br />Like I said before, I don't have any evidence one way or another, if you say it exists, I'll take your word for it.</i><br /><br />Comment #2, posted immediately after #1:<br /><i>"Second, what was the basis for your opposition to gay/lesbian parents again?"<br /><br />Like I said a few times, I need to see the evidence.</i><br /><br />OK, so: first write your comment, THEN read it to see if it makes sense in context, THEN post. That second step is really pretty crucial.<br /><br />Good luck.Leisha Camdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04768409807832229050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-84818389241982877672010-01-14T00:00:28.272-06:002010-01-14T00:00:28.272-06:00Tim: Genders of the parents aside, two loving p...<i> Tim: Genders of the parents aside, <b> two </b> loving parents is still going better than <b> one </b> or <b> none </b> .<br /><br />Bornatnight1: I would have to see the evidence. </i><br /><br />2 > 1 > 0<br /><br />Is that sufficient evidence? :D<br /><br />Seriously though, you need evidence to see if <b> having </b> parents is better than <b> not having </b> parents?Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03613012638893989500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-14274154230026042602010-01-13T22:10:04.699-06:002010-01-13T22:10:04.699-06:00Let me see if I can make this clear for you Mark; ...Let me see if I can make this clear for you Mark; I'll go slowly.<br /><br />Children are NOT mentally or physically mature enough to handle sex or long term relationships. The validity of a fact isn't decided by how many people agree with it.<br /><br />Now you might ask how I <i>know</i> if a 5 year old is mature or not. With the exception of geniuses, children are not mentally equipped to handle the complexities of a relationship. Nor have they built the experiential foundations that one can only achieve over time. A child hasn't had the physical changes necessary to trigger the chemical reactions that make them desire the opposite sex. Which is why you any 3rd grade girl will tell you boys are <i>gross</i>.<br /><br /><br />Lastly, do the studies that shows they <i>"usually stay married"</i> also show psychological profiles on the children? I hate to speculate, but I feel safe in saying those children would have social, physical, and mental issues.<br /><br />word verification: valueThe Invisible Pink Unicornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12431132950971038781noreply@blogger.com