tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post3183654944381479953..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Lame YouTube Apologist Caught in a LieUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-27412858025786216922011-01-07T13:53:16.959-06:002011-01-07T13:53:16.959-06:00...and the Lord said unto his flock, "Thou sh......and the Lord said unto his flock, "Thou shalt be Safe on the Roads", Regulations 3:16 (section ii(a))<br /><br />:-)adey5https://www.blogger.com/profile/02816946342380693570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-43509095468285394462011-01-07T13:01:24.722-06:002011-01-07T13:01:24.722-06:00I just had to take SoG to task with regards to his...I just had to take SoG to task with regards to his Road safety. He seems to make commentary on his vids, while driving at speed on his motorcycle, which is very dangerous. I posted the following comment on his YT channel ironically on his "Motorcycle rider dies on mean unforgiving freeways of California" vid. The comment is pending approval but I don't care if he approves it or not, AS LONG as he stops riding AND commentating at the same time. Here is my comment verbatim:<br /><br /><br /><br />"Dear SoG, I'm not sure if you add the commentary later but if you ARE commentating whilst riding, DON'T!!! You are not paying 'Due Care & Attention' on the road!!! Studies have shown that talking on cell-phones reduces concentration dramatically!! If you want to risk your life, fine, but DON'T risk others lives too. What if you killed someone on the road while making a video? What does your god say about causing death by dangerous driving and how would he judge you?? THINK ABOUT IT, Common sense"<br /><br /><br /><br />I will ignore his obnoxious reference to the dead rider being a Christian or not, but as much as I think he is an annoying idiot, I would HATE him (or others) to be hurt, injured or worse. <br /><br />Perhaps you could give a short Public Safety announcement with regards to this at the top of the next AE show 'cos it is important.<br /><br />A concerned pedestrian.<br /><br />PS we may get a vid by SoG entitled "Please provide proof and evidence that not paying attention while driving is dangerous, is accurate and correct"!! Haha!!adey5https://www.blogger.com/profile/02816946342380693570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-4766503839674415682011-01-07T12:45:01.800-06:002011-01-07T12:45:01.800-06:00I had to take SoG to task on the road safety issue...I had to take SoG to task on the road safety issue. Ironically I posted it on his "Motorcycle rider dies on mean unforgiving freeways of California" video on his YT channel. Here is the comment verbatim:<br /><br />"Dear SoG, I'm not sure if you add the commentary later but if you ARE commentating whilst riding, DON'T!!! You are not paying 'Due Care & Attention' on the road!!! Studies have shown that talking on cell-phones reduces concentration dramatically!! If you want to risk your life, fine, but DON'T risk others lives too. What if you killed someone on the road while making a video? What does your god say about causing death by dangerous driving and how would he judge you?? THINK ABOUT IT, Common sense"<br /><br />The comment is still pending approval but whether or not he posts it doesn't matter, as long as he stops talking while riding (he must be going over 80mph). Maybe he adds the commentary later, but I am not so sure. As much as I think he is an annoying idiot, I would HATE to see him or other road-users hurt, injured or worse. BTW his comment on his vid regarding his hopes that the dead rider is christian (he thinks that at least he goes to heaven) is obnoxious, but that was not the point of my comment. Perhaps you can mention this public safety issue at the top of the next show. It is important to everyone.<br /><br />A concerned pedestrian!!adey5https://www.blogger.com/profile/02816946342380693570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-83484155035804909902011-01-07T11:58:19.587-06:002011-01-07T11:58:19.587-06:00I think we do need to be honest with regards to th...I think we do need to be honest with regards to this non-question and say that "No, we CAN'T provide proof and evidence that atheism etc....", cos that would mean we have to disprove god, BUT we must demonstrate why it can't be answered and it must be made clear that before we say we can't provide P&E, he would then have to answer one of 2 questions in return before he can claim any victory:<br /><br />1. Can he provide proof and evidence that Theism is accurate and correct (which would mean he would have to prove a god exists, after all he is making the positive claim)<br /><br />or<br /><br />2. Can he provide proof and evidence that lack of belief in pink flying unicorns, fairies etc is accurate and correct.<br /><br />If he can't answer these counter-questions then the Theists vs Non-theists score is 0-0 in this daft battle. No-one wins, and no-one loses. He cannot claim victory by default.<br /><br />Also I am not really sure what he would class as evidence, this would have to be proof there is no god. So this is a jumped-up disprove god question.<br /><br />I think that it's ridiculous that this issue has boiled down to these pseudo-philosophical gymnastics and it has come down to a point-scoring excercise over who can come up with the best non-refutable one-liner (well the theists use this tactic anyway).<br /><br />But at least if we are honest and say we can't answer it in the way that he knows we can't, that is a noble admission. He will no-doubt claim victory anyway, stand on a little podium and award himself a medal, while all his fellow apologists pat him on the back. FINE let him do that, at least he will go away and leave us in peace to address the REAL important issues to promote a separation of church and state, promote REAL science in schools, critical thinking with regards to religious claims and practices and help those atheists who are caught up in religions they don't believe in.<br /><br />All this is just a waste of valuable time when more pressing matters are at hand.adey5https://www.blogger.com/profile/02816946342380693570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-1498769137148944572010-08-25T08:57:49.111-05:002010-08-25T08:57:49.111-05:00I'm pretty sure his last name is actually Garc...I'm pretty sure his last name is actually Garcia. I once searched his website URL and came up with a post/review that he did on Amazon where he promotes his website and it had the "real name" verification under it. The last name was Garcia. But I can't find the post anymore.Melanie https://www.blogger.com/profile/13261035384069567463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-21887006033626060582010-08-25T04:01:05.342-05:002010-08-25T04:01:05.342-05:00They were talking about two different things. The...They were talking about two different things. The caller 'wanted' to know why the people were atheists. And the hosts were talking about how they know that they are atheists.Secretary of the Revolutionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10772017074108757762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-22286034421349884702010-08-25T03:40:17.325-05:002010-08-25T03:40:17.325-05:00I posted the following comment to this video by sh...I posted the following comment to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzl7sbpFX6c" rel="nofollow">this video</a> by shockofgod:<br /><br /><i>"I'd like some proof and evidence that asking for proof and evidence with regards to the most reasonable position to hold in the absence of proof and evidence isn't a completely nonsensical question."</i><br /><br />To which He replied: <i>"agreed, atheism is crapola"</i> before promptly blocking me and enabling comment approval. (Mine was one of the few out of hundreds he even bothered to respond to). Of course this prevented my response to clarify whether He really missed the satire or was just being completely dishonest. Now Hes deleted all existing comments and disallowed further discussion.<br /><br />Thanks to this post it's now obvious that misrepresenting the position of others is Shock's usual tactic.ormaajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507650859831408779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-76730591390248302662010-08-24T14:50:09.403-05:002010-08-24T14:50:09.403-05:00Update :
The above response, which I also left o...Update :<br /><br />The above response, which I also left on "shockofgod"'s channel page , as well as my own, met with "approval pending" on his.<br />Needless to say, it didn't make it onto his!<br /><br />Has it ever occurred to anyone to find a way to point out this dishonesty to sincere Christians, and then ask them why so many Christians find it necessary to validate or defend their beliefs this way?<br />Surely it's a shouted declaration, at the top of their voice, of a flawed and unjustifiable philosophy?tobytrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16754146360581382301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-21301430181991758432010-08-23T11:02:46.661-05:002010-08-23T11:02:46.661-05:00I just found this message. from "shockofgod&q...I just found this message. from "shockofgod" on my home YT profile comment thread.<br /> I pretty much posted what's below on HIS channel, but met with "comment approval"<br /><br /><br />"The fact that the atheist experience show wont provide proof and evidence that atheism is accurate and correct goes to show that Matt is a coward and that atheism if full of crap. Why won't they provide proof and evidence that atheism is accurate and correct? What's that say about the humanist religion of atheism? It shows its pathetic."<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />"My response is simple ;- <br /><br />Why don't you actually contact the REAL "Atheist Experience Show" and pose the question in a lucid form so that it can be answered .<br /><br />You contacted the WRONG show and claimed it to be the "Atheist Experience".<br />Unless you're a total moron,that's telling lies - Isn't there some commandment in your book about that??"<br /><br />"My answer to your original question is simpler :-<br /><br />Atheists can only answer for the accuracy of their own atheism - since it is a disbelief of somebody else's unsupported claim. Mine is definitely accurate and correct - I don't believe in anybody's god - That's a fact!"<br /><br />When are you guys going to hand this didingenuous turd his neatly folded ass?!!tobytrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16754146360581382301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-34014734246152020692010-08-13T05:12:39.063-05:002010-08-13T05:12:39.063-05:00shockofgod contacted 'Zinnia Jones' a yout...shockofgod contacted 'Zinnia Jones' a youtube athiest. You should see this: <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZzNEN2PrSg<br /><br />He gets pwnd :P<br /><br />Greetings,<br /><br />Webcam girl from HollandDeviant and Fragilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02605094659354110992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-67460529221475590402010-07-30T02:41:38.691-05:002010-07-30T02:41:38.691-05:00As others have said. It's a pretty clear bur...As others have said. It's a pretty clear burden shift by implying atheism is a positive claim requiring supporting evidence.<br /><br />It's just a reworked <br /> "you can't prove there is no god"Rhetorichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05794997737926191561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-16740461810262367992010-07-29T12:43:15.353-05:002010-07-29T12:43:15.353-05:00actually, i believe his full name is richard allen...actually, i believe his full name is richard allen garcia. i know this because he posted a video on youtube a while back of some news story he was interviewed in, and they mentioned his name. aside from his rich allen account on yahoo answers, garcia has also registered a number of other aliases where he claims to be an atheist, only promote his lame blogtalk radio show. so far, i've found three other accounts that he's using - antitheist, atheist3455, and atheist s12. you really have to wonder about the intelligence level of someone who would actually think these accounts would fool anyone into believing they are not registered to garcia, when he all he does is talk about himself in every question and answer he posts.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10688751688065208926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-4973474248493180272010-07-28T06:02:33.785-05:002010-07-28T06:02:33.785-05:00I have just posted on said video from Shockofgod, ...I have just posted on said video from Shockofgod, and it is currently "Pending Approval", which will most likely mean that it shall be deleted to make all his comments come only from the perspective of Christians, making it a bias forum, and no place for discussion. This shows his cowardice that he needs to hide behind and moderate comments that do not meet his "standards". I have also just realised that he has disabled ratings...AshHonourshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164700197973979305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-38360574793693838272010-07-19T10:08:37.855-05:002010-07-19T10:08:37.855-05:00Wow...just wow. If that really WERE Matt, he woul...Wow...just wow. If that really WERE Matt, he would have DESTROYED this dude. He would have been muted after about a minute while it was explained to him in detail why his question is silly (like it has been time and time again).<br /><br />Seriously, this is the kinda stuff that -I- can pile-drive people on, and I'm not that great at arguing with people.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02956118410933336292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-10468685010797864012010-07-18T02:19:01.071-05:002010-07-18T02:19:01.071-05:00I don't think the hosts were in on it.
The fa...I don't think the hosts were in on it.<br /> The fact is, notwithstanding Rich very childishly and annoyingly shouting them down, they actually handed him his ass, on what was a very unfairly posited question in the first place!<br />This gutless, dishonest little creep, is actually a subscriber of mine on YouTube...I can't begin to guess what his motives are - He hasn't even tried to engage me in any dialogue, and blocks any attempt to engage him!<br />He's a strange little guy.<br /><br />Incidently,I believe he was a suggested venue and arbitrator for a planned but aborted debate on creationism, between two other YouTubers : - NephilimFree and DonExodus.<br />I can guess how that would have turned out!!tobytrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16754146360581382301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-50705755889085992882010-07-16T21:33:18.440-05:002010-07-16T21:33:18.440-05:00I was watching a video about him and decided to cl...I was watching a video about him and decided to click on a related video that I thought looked stupid. In the description box it said, "Feel free to leave any comments as I respect the freedom of speech."<br /><br />Seeing that it was the case, I corrected his/her accusation that all atheists deny all gods' existences and that the burden of proof lies on them because of their claims. This person replied to my comments giving the same spiel as before without even addressing what I said. I then noticed that my comment was deleted and only showed this person's "rebuttal." I responded again only to find out I was blocked by the user.<br /><br />What I wonder is how all of these creationist/Christians can be so disingenuous and not think that something may wrong about what they believe if they are so scared about what the opposition has to say. I try to give even fundies respect, but it gets harder every day.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05554732589649361481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-7791171444877265462010-07-16T20:02:42.574-05:002010-07-16T20:02:42.574-05:00Alenius, he's an attention-seeking douchebag, ...Alenius, he's an attention-seeking douchebag, and with his inane taunts he simply hopes we'll be as infantile as he is and rise to the bait. Somehow, I think we're onto the game.<br /><br />If said douchebag wishes to call the show like anybody else, and ask us anything he wants, he is welcome to. This ought to be a given.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17933545393470431585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-77938204128413489322010-07-16T17:52:44.650-05:002010-07-16T17:52:44.650-05:00Shockie has just uploaded a video about how the At...Shockie has just uploaded a video about how the Atheist Experice, or more accuratly Matt D, chickened out from this challange. For the love of God, shut this guy up!Aleniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13958060273156595602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-61562900455378890162010-07-16T16:23:25.195-05:002010-07-16T16:23:25.195-05:00Wow, that's powerful stupid!Wow, that's powerful stupid!TastyPaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00493964279081659383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-75889927239756617152010-07-14T08:08:31.561-05:002010-07-14T08:08:31.561-05:00Also an awesome name for a counter SoG youtube ac...Also an awesome name for a counter SoG youtube account would be Shocker of God.<br /><br />It's funny because it's obscene and accurately describe the subject being parodied.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-8662662600055060062010-07-13T20:51:28.260-05:002010-07-13T20:51:28.260-05:00I have to defend the hosts, even though, for the l...I have to defend the hosts, even though, for the love of god HOLD BUTTON. THey were technically correct, but would have got a lot further by addressing the burden of proof.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024689390434414829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-88122006801763805092010-07-13T20:38:12.060-05:002010-07-13T20:38:12.060-05:00I had a similar experience as ernobius...
I got a...I had a similar experience as ernobius...<br /><br />I got a YouTube friend request from SoG. I guessed it was because I subscribe to a lot of skeptic/atheist channels (Thunderfoot, AronRa, etc). But it was shortly after that, that he sent me a video about some weird view of atheism. It included how the Atheist Experience TV show won't have him on, because their afraid of him. When I tried to engage him in a discussion, he kept replying back with the same video link. He eventually stopped.<br /><br />I'd like to see him on the show. But I'm sure he won't call in. I think he knows he would get abused.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359116414084851493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-76179848022545099172010-07-13T19:59:06.663-05:002010-07-13T19:59:06.663-05:00I think Shockofgod has edited the video - adding a...I think Shockofgod has edited the video - adding a text box that, if clicked, takes you to a different video. Perhaps he hopes that when we see a different video than the one that is discussed on the blog, we will be confused???<br /><br />p.s. I enjoy both podcastsMarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00682485811420861005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-38075240052147994372010-07-13T06:07:54.832-05:002010-07-13T06:07:54.832-05:00@ James Francesco: Please, do it and record it! It...@ James Francesco: Please, do it and record it! It would be great.<br /><br />Have you seen that there is a channel called Shockofshite, where Shocky's videos can be rated and commented? Even if Shocky himself will remain a moron, maybe it'll make him understand that he's not that right and supported...ernobiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13872778498473437876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-3525864753583461002010-07-13T03:04:46.268-05:002010-07-13T03:04:46.268-05:00the caller actually made me sad. If this kind of t...the caller actually made me sad. If this kind of thinking is common for our young people, future generations are going to be in for some rough times.AlaskanAtheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07376971405970778275noreply@blogger.com