tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post2907764724957838579..comments2023-09-24T07:53:50.826-05:00Comments on The Atheist Experience™: Patriotic ironyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-80123013047793216012009-07-06T16:51:27.683-05:002009-07-06T16:51:27.683-05:00Ohmygosh, ING! I was so with you through this comm...Ohmygosh, ING! I was so with you through this comment thread (and many others) until you called "52" a kick-ass series!!!<br /><br /><br />AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! The horror!!!!!Jennifer Juniperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13913533558610258500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-70144069199001116752009-04-28T20:06:00.000-05:002009-04-28T20:06:00.000-05:00And [Rush's} comments on aids actually come from h...<EM>And [Rush's} comments on aids actually come from his viewpoint that people shouldn't be having sex out of wed lock, something that would dramatically reduce instances of AIDs throughout the world.</EM> <br /><br />So tell me again what Rush was doing in the Dominican Republic with that Viagra?Tommykeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751182125861177379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-56114704923582837002009-04-28T09:49:00.000-05:002009-04-28T09:49:00.000-05:00Re: Robert
I wonder how much of our own relative ...Re: Robert<br /><br />I wonder how much of our own relative luxury plays a role in letting the ruling class get away with too much shit.<br /><br />We may be chest-deep in debt, but a lot of us still have plenty to eat, hot showers every day, and 150 channels to keep us entertained. <br /><br />I'm not advocating that we live like peasants, but it's eye opening to me that people across the Equator, many of whom may not be sure about their next meal, are willing to put their asses on the line to reform things.Kyle Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04569432667084294505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-13670705335843126582009-04-27T22:40:00.000-05:002009-04-27T22:40:00.000-05:00I want to point out that while I agree...and thus ...I want to point out that while I agree...and thus am invalidated as a commie, I DO like capitalism WHEN IT WORKS. it fails because of externalities...mainly THINGS HAVE COSTS THAT ARE NOT IMMEDIATELY SEEN OR PERCEIVED. <br /><br />Take economics 101 if you don't get what I'm saying. I also just want to say that there are some rich folk who 'walk the walk' and more or less actually earned their freaking money, didn't inherit shit, oh and don't believe in giving their kids inheritance. Those people I will support. The country club fucks can go to hell...they didn't 'earn' it any more than modern day Christians are responsible for the crusades. <br /><br />Warren Buffet>>> Paris Hilton.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677092968714424939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-27528354229591494442009-04-27T21:49:00.000-05:002009-04-27T21:49:00.000-05:00It is probably greatly telling how big a dork I am...It is probably greatly telling how big a dork I am that the fact that there were exactly 52 posts had FAR more resonance with me than if there were 666. <br /><br />I guess my point is that a kick ass series written by comic super stars about Gods, aliens, and mad scientists forced to live in a commune together under the rule of a giant Chinese egg; that is mostly well written and edited has more intrinsic value to me than a poorly edited/translated mish mash of a bible.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677092968714424939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-24627035161369643422009-04-26T21:54:00.000-05:002009-04-26T21:54:00.000-05:00Lui,
Great comments. And I am with you at the en...Lui,<br /><br />Great comments. And I am with you at the end, if we Americans had even 1/10th the commitment to democratic reform that has been shown by Latin America's landless and peasant classes over the past 150 years, constantly fighting and organizing for reform in the face of impossible and deadly odds, the world would be a better place. <br /><br />We Americans have insanely short memories, and are too often willing to believe and accept the unintelligible chanter of pundits, and forget when they have been drastically wrong.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04103446055814911491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-65727878798672785102009-04-25T21:28:00.000-05:002009-04-25T21:28:00.000-05:00Some of the comments here remind me of that old qu...Some of the comments here remind me of that old quote (forgot by whom):<br /><br />"The problem is that the poor are paid too much, and the rich too little."<br /><br />That pretty much sums up the mentality on display. When the government has the temerity to take some (stolen) wealth from the super rich and use it to avert social meltdown, that's "slavery". Right. So when half of Americans don't have health insurance, when there are 2 million people in prison (a majority of them incarcerated for drug offences), when the population, even under the presidency of a "socialist", has no say over how money will be used to benefit society during an economic collapse - none of this is sympomatic of slavery. But prevent a millionaire from buying another Lamborghini and suddenly "serfdom" is knocking on our door. We must evidently sacrifice everything upon the alter of that most fundamental human right: the accumulation of wealth. Anything that in any way interferes with that is deemed "socialism" - ignoring the fact that socialism has been pushed for the super rich for decades (while everyone else had to learn "personal responsibility" or some bullshit like that).<br /><br />You libertarian greed-mongers are flirting with succession because of progressive income taxation? Were you also thinking of dabbling in treason when Reagan was backing death squad regimes in Central America, underwriting Pol Pot-style atrocities in your name? If not, then shut the fuck up. Were you in an uproar when he intensified the bogus "war on drugs", leading to a massive increase in incarceration (and an expansion of "big government")? Gee, I'm shocked. See, the problem isn't big government. The problem is that you want to make big government breathing down someone else's neck, and use it for your own ends. When it's being used to subsidise the arms industry through research funding to the Pentagon, when it's used to bully other nations into grossly unjust "free trade" agreements (which, incidentally, have nothing to do with free trade), when it's being used to slaughter Guatemalans or Iraqis, when it's being used to imprison people for inhaling substances into their bodies, then its okay. But when the "talented and most productive" are "penalised" by having their wealth "redistributed" (wealth that they acquired mainly through the exploitation of other people's labour, as well as stacking everything in their favour by buying the government, evading regulations through loopholes and outright fraud, owning the media, pumping billions of dollars of propaganda onto the airwaves aimed at persuading people to buy junk they don't need, and establishing think tanks that formulate government policies), then it's a sign that the end is nigh and that you're about to become like East Germany. There's just one thing wrong with this: it's totally <I>fucking</I> retarded. Obama isn't defending socialism; he's defending your lives. If it weren't for the federal government, the upper class would be lynched in three minutes (ironically, the federal government plays an enormous role in facilitating the theft that's led to the anger and sense of helplessness, but keep on pretending that everything would so much nicer with "small government". I submit that for you, it wouldn't be). Your system has hit the fan, and now the capitalist state is trying to bail its constituency out of the mess. It can do that by simply giving money to the super rich and incarcerating people who don't feel that it's quite alright to hold "personal responsibility" up as an absolute virtue and act like saints when the system they've been indoctrinated to put all their faith in leaves them with nothing; or they can divert some of the grotesque wealth of the "most talented" (ie. the best expropriators of wealth) to help bail out the people who actually produce the wealth and have to worry about real things instead of whether they should buy a Porsche or a Maserati. The craven, slavish equivocation of the latter group's woes (and as someone else said, my heart goes out to the unfortunate billionaire - NOT. There are far more worthy recipients of my sympathy) to that of the former is typical of a mandarin. Since you see your own ego-reflections in the accumulation of capital, since you so desperately long for money and possessions, since you want to get in on the gravy train, you end up elevating it to a virtual human right, as though everything else should be beholden to it. Truly a sick ideology, and it puts the biggest smile on my face when I see Bolivians, Venezuelans and increasingly Americans (who would learn a lot from Bolivians and Venezuelans when it comes to democracy) throwing away the yoke of free market fundamentalism. The neoliberal iron curtain is collapsing. I couldn't give a stuff about your precious profits. Obama does, though:<br /><br />"The point that I've been trying to make consistently has been that we believe in the free market, we believe in capitalism, we believe in people getting rich, but we believe in people getting rich based on performance and what they add in terms of value and the products and services that they create. And it's appropriate for us to have some regulatory mechanisms in place to ensure that we never have a situation where the government has to step in, or you've got taxpayers who are having to foot the bill for other people's mistakes."<br /><br />Like it or not, that's what you're left with. Admittedly, it's not much of a consolation to those hoping for <I>real</I> "change". It's not much of a consolation to those who want to continue on Reagan-Thatcher binge-drinking, either, but then, that boat's already sailed.<br /><br />It's just a cold, mother-fucking fact of life that there's no other way to "fix" your system other than through what you castigate as "socialism" (and even then, the inherent contradictions of capitalism will ensure that there will be another crisis). Everyone who isn't a complete dyed-in-the-wool free-market faith-head understands this (once it's sorted out and things are back on track, the pundits and intellectuals can get back to extolling the efficiency of capitalism and free markets). But on the plus side, Obama has no intention of significantly scaling back military spending, he will expand the "war on terror" to Pakistan (leading to the deaths of plenty more Muslims, all the better to make you feel safe), he is stone-walling on the withdrawal of troops from Iraq (thus making him complicit in Bush's crimes), and he has said that he won't seek prosecutions for CIA personnel who used torture on terror suspects (thus once again reaffirming American exceptionalism). Needless to say, he won't even try to prosecute the Bush gang for their endless crimes and deceptions. Something tells me that Obama's socialism isn't all it's cracked up to be. Conservatives whine and moan about it, but Obama seems intent on constantly disappointing. So have a nice day and count your blessings.<br /><br />On another note, I hope that the American people will soon fulfil their democratic aspirations for a better life by emulating the example of poor peasants in Latin America by organising.Luis Cayetanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05210714337197709016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-35152169342835808002009-04-25T21:09:00.000-05:002009-04-25T21:09:00.000-05:00And also, the truth is that the poor people in thi...And also, the truth is that the poor people in this country have so much more opportunity and quality of life than the rich people of many other countries."<br /><br />If truth means generalized bullshit you use to not give a damn about others, than yes by all means go ahead.<br /><br />His view on aids that sex should be in wed lock...well guess what, the guy is an ASS for thinking that sex outside of HIS definition of marriage means that you deserve a deadly disease. <br /><br />Yeah "Maybe we should bring slavery back" doesn't at ALL sound like he's talking about it working economically. Yeah it's the big bad liberals tearing down the saintly figures. Want me to back up the wambulance? Just like it was the liberals that made Limbaugh say the bad things...made him take drugs, made O'Riely sexually molest someone and made Glen Beck retarded. <br /><br />Your spin is rejected and is so laughable that I say we just get back on topic.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677092968714424939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-33365926225566275972009-04-25T20:44:00.000-05:002009-04-25T20:44:00.000-05:00Andrew, I love how the Republicans view of decent ...Andrew, I love how the Republicans view of decent leadership is Limbaugh as a spokesman and Palin for President.<br /><br />Seriously, how could anyone like that half retarded stump. She reminds me of Kristen Stewart's character in Twilight.AtheistUnderMaskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15835169901704552498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-32681819380001697642009-04-25T12:54:00.000-05:002009-04-25T12:54:00.000-05:00Martin wrote: "As for Rush, look, the dude is just...Martin wrote: "As for Rush, look, the dude is just a showman. I honestly don't think there is anything at all he really gives a damn about with any degree of conviction, except for A) Rush Limbaugh and B) Rush Limbaugh's bank account."<br /><br />I disagree. I really don't think anybody could be insincere 3 hours a day, every day, consistently, for 20+ years. You're giving him too much credit by suggesting he's merely a canny entertainer. He's the current spokesman for "conservatism" and if you're against that concept, you should take Limbo seriously. People *do* listen and believe everything he says and we have to deal with that, not dismiss it as "entertainment."ABhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536547131562840293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-71785713651512070342009-04-25T11:46:00.000-05:002009-04-25T11:46:00.000-05:00>Anyway, most of these issues that we consider ...>Anyway, most of these issues that we consider "big deals" wouldn't matter at all if federal government were as small as it should be.<<br /><br />How small should it be?<br /><br />Weren't the Great Depression and our entry into WWII rather severe tests for the notion of a small, weak fed? I do think, BTW, that the the fed is too big, but I don't have a clear idea of how much smaller is enough.<br /><br />Finally, we need to keep in mind that exactly those who call themselves "small govt. fiscal conservatives" are the ones who've perpetrated (or at least presided over) the most extreme expansions of the fed. govt. in recent history. <br /><br />Ronald Reagan initiated and promulgated the largest deficit welfare program for the defense industry in the history of our union, all if it done during peacetime. He more than quadrupled the national debt during his term, which stood at about 4 trillion when he left office. <br /><br />Newt Gingritch's Contract With America, had it all been passed by congress, was one of the largest expansions of the size and power of the federal govt. all in one blow that I think I've ever read. It consisted of 10, that's right _ten_ bills that would have created an utterly bewildering array of new govt. agencies, laws and costs, with who knows how much other infrastructure needed to enforce it all. Newt, of course, describes himself as an ardent small govt. conservative. Yeah right....<br /><br />The Bush's exemplify similar expansions of even greater magnitude, despite their claims they follow conservative ideals.<br /><br />Finally, the theocratic impulses of these guys is no secret, nor is their appetite for govt. expansion and expense when it comes to perpetrating them upon everyone in our country. <br /><br />The conservative claims of the conservatives are largely lies and are in fact calls for the "liberal" policies of spending and govt. expansion they publicly condemn. <br /><br />So there's lots of this to go around...<br /><br />LSlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17901508236729383702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-61689331920316523022009-04-25T09:25:00.000-05:002009-04-25T09:25:00.000-05:00>Look, there are liberal reporters listening to...>Look, there are liberal reporters listening to Rush just so they can grab that one line out of context that sounds bad for him.<<br /><br />What's a "liberal" reporter? Someone who simply doesn't agree with RL is my guess. <br />Either way, there seem to be a lot of those one-liners of his out there that "sound bad for him". <br />RL is one of these guys that tries to pass himself off as a megaphone for the reasonable element among us. But on closer listening, it's just the same Klan-style ignorance with a little sugar-coating on top. You don't have to be Harvard Phd. to pick up on this either. <br /><br />>Maybe things aren't as fair in a non-socialist society, but I've heard stories from my German friends about their time in east Germany...<<br /><br />This sounds like an apology for the aristocratic ways that we just voted out of office in our govt. <br />Just because the alternative to one particular evil is even more evil doesn't make the original evil less or or offer a justification for it. <br /><br />Ku Klux Klan morals and aristocratic economic principles are yesterday's failures; they should stay in yesterday, IMO, and we should get on with the business of cleaning that up. <br />The current administration is doing the best it can with what it's got on its plate, IMO. No matter what is done at this point, it ain't going to be purty for a while.<br /><br />LSlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17901508236729383702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-57288084421890401392009-04-25T06:56:00.000-05:002009-04-25T06:56:00.000-05:00Look, there are liberal reporters listening to Rus...Look, there are liberal reporters listening to Rush just so they can grab that one line out of context that sounds bad for him. Maybe in the 70s, Rush was racist like lots of white people raised in the 60s (though I doubt it), but now, he's definitely not. When he says "Slavery is not that bad" he means as an economic model. Morally, of course.<br /><br />When he says feminists hurt their cause, he means the extremist who go yelling hate-men propoganda, and make people dislike them, thus making people dislike their cause even more. <br /><br />And his comments on aids actually come from his viewpoint that people shouldn't be having sex out of wed lock, something that would dramatically reduce instances of AIDs throughout the world. While this idea is pretty closeminded and hardly realistic, considering the society he was raised in, I can understand why he holds that viewpoint. <br /><br />I tend to be fairly patient with people, since I think that going out and calling people stupid, dumb, or bigoted for a couple things they said at some point in time is a fallacy. You could pull ten phrases from my lifetime that make me sound terribly bigoted, but I'm not at all. And also... just because I defend Rush doesn't mean I agree with him. I defend people from a lot of causes that I have nothing in common with or completely disagree with.<br /><br />And to say I'm close minded because I lost respect for you when you used obscenities to strengthen your argument in a discussion is baseless. Maybe it's the effect of the internet, which I very rarely have conversations on. In conversations with the company I keep, I would never use obscenities with someone I don't know, especially if I were trying to convince them that my viewpoint on something was valid. Not that I don't have a dirty mouth around my dearest friends or in bed, I just think people need to draw some lines about what's acceptable and what's not. <br /><br />And I am in no way a republican or a democrat. A conservative, yes, but both parties are far from being interested in what the people think or any form of conservatism. Maybe things aren't as fair in a non-socialist society, but I've heard stories from my German friends about their time in east Germany, I've heard stories about the failures of Canadian and British healthcare from those friends, experienced the failures of the German health care system first hand, and I've studied a lot what makes those systems fail. Anything you give the government power over, politicians will USE to get more votes. And also, the truth is that the poor people in this country have so much more opportunity and quality of life than the rich people of many other countries.Hjorrdishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931186167210338378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-7669054347006156192009-04-24T23:56:00.000-05:002009-04-24T23:56:00.000-05:00I'm not sure how I feel on the topic, since I'm st...<I>I'm not sure how I feel on the topic, since I'm still doing research, but there are a lot of people who think it should be repealed.</I>Yes, there are. There are also a fair number of people who still believe that the sun revolves around the earth.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-61382859606908776282009-04-24T23:41:00.000-05:002009-04-24T23:41:00.000-05:00>'m not sure how I feel on the topic, since...>'m not sure how I feel on the topic, since I'm still doing research, but there are a lot of people who think it should be repealed.<<br /><br />The 16th doesn't confer any new powers of taxation, the congress had always had the power to levy income taxes. It just clarifies the cases where it can do so, looks like to me.<br /><br />Looks like it made it harder to evade paying one's fair share for the privileges and protections offered by our govt. <br /><br />"small govt" in modern parlance is usually only a euphemism for "small or big govt. where it benefits me, otherwise I don't care or prefer the reverse".<br /><br />I.e. the religious right prefers VERY big govt. when it comes to favors that benefit them, but small govt. when it comes to favors for its opposition.<br /><br />Definitely NOT conformant to traditional "smaller govt" propaganda....<br /><br />LSlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17901508236729383702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-206527633096883482009-04-24T23:39:00.000-05:002009-04-24T23:39:00.000-05:00I'm sorry, should have added "to describe themselv...<I>I'm sorry, should have added "to describe themselves" on the end of there. Of course they use it - to make fun of it. That sign doesn't say "I'm a teabagger," though.</I>Nice try, Hjorrdis, but your chronology is all wrong. The first incident I ever heard of for liberals using "teabaggers" as an epithet comes from this Rachel Maddow clip:<br />http://www.rhythmism.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79353<br /><br />And Maddow didn't even coin the term, she was just boggling at the fact that a Fox News anchor was describing their activities as "teabagging." I'm afraid you can't pin the blame on MSNBC for coming up with the word. If conservatives were the first ones to use the words to describe themselves, even ironically, then they need much better PR people.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05324968314168283095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-10742216511700240632009-04-24T22:54:00.000-05:002009-04-24T22:54:00.000-05:00Btw, know what made me start loosing respect for y...Btw, know what made me start loosing respect for you? Not the words you used but the things behind them. When you can defend a blow hard who said "slavery wasn't all that bad" and mocks people with diseases...not for comedy but to promote his political view. You can still like Limbaugh, but he is a bigot and is insanely disrespectful to anyone who doesn't believe what he does. He says the same freaking stuff as Coulter.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677092968714424939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-77795709761691838892009-04-24T22:50:00.000-05:002009-04-24T22:50:00.000-05:00Yeah no...Limbaugh is not a comedian though. most...Yeah no...Limbaugh is not a comedian though. most telling fact he's not funny. Know who was funny George Carlin...but you don't respect dirty word users. You're VERY narrow minded.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677092968714424939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-13883363924044480922009-04-24T22:21:00.000-05:002009-04-24T22:21:00.000-05:00Where to begin...
Ing: I'm not saying you should...Where to begin...<br /><br />Ing: I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to say obscenities, just saying I lose all respect for you afterwards. You should be able to make your argument without expressing your emotions.<br /><br />ls: I specifically said <I>income</I> tax.<br /><br />Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution states "No capitation, or other direct, tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken."<br />After the Supreme Court decision on <I>Pollock v. Farmer's Loan</I> in 1895 which found the income tax unconstitutional,<br />Amendment XVI was passed, stating "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration." thus expanding the power of the legislative branch. Some wonder if the motives behind this amendment were just.<br /><br />I'm not sure how I feel on the topic, since I'm still doing research, but there are a lot of people who think it should be repealed.<br /><br />kazim: I'm sorry, should have added "to describe themselves" on the end of there. Of course they use it - to make fun of it. That sign doesn't say "I'm a teabagger," though.<br /><br />Anyway, most of these issues that we consider "big deals" wouldn't matter at all if federal government were as small as it should be. They just wouldn't have a say. Each state could decide for itself, and people could live in the state that promoted things that mattered to them. Of course, the Supreme Court would be there to make sure that human rights are honored.<br /><br />And one more thing Ing: There are a ton of comedians who also say derogatory things who aren't considered bigots because of it. I won't go into what he means with each of those quotes here since my posts are long enough anyway, but if you are interested you can e-mail me and I'll discuss it further. There is a lot more than face value there.Hjorrdishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931186167210338378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-90393935608122355962009-04-24T21:52:00.000-05:002009-04-24T21:52:00.000-05:00>Is, let me clarify: I'm only 26. My presid...>Is, let me clarify: I'm only 26. My presidents start with Regan and the only one I can actually still remember vividly is Clinton, since Regan and Bush occurred when I was too young to give a damn about politics<<br /><br />Well don't feel too bad - I started with Nixon when I was 11. We listened to the Watergate hearings and eventually Nixon's resignation speech on a "transistor radio". <br /><br />Reagan was the first true aristocrat to occupy the pres. in modern times (at least as late as I can remember) and did his best to transform our republic into an aristocracy. He ran up a $4 trillion bill in his efforts.<br /><br />Seems kind of small change compared to what the "small govt. fiscal conservatives" have cost us since, tho.<br /><br />PS. the only president to ever preside over a govt. surplus since the 50's was Clinton, a "big govt. democrat". Ironic....<br /><br />LSlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17901508236729383702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-52291887986035894512009-04-24T21:38:00.000-05:002009-04-24T21:38:00.000-05:00Is, let me clarify: I'm only 26. My presidents sta...Is, let me clarify: I'm only 26. My presidents start with Regan and the only one I can actually still remember vividly is Clinton, since Regan and Bush occurred when I was too young to give a damn about politics.<br /><br />Ing: Thank you. I should have recognized that immediately. My first thought was the Amazing Randi, but that didn't make any sense at all in context.AtheistUnderMaskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15835169901704552498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-82514576494340248132009-04-24T21:14:00.000-05:002009-04-24T21:14:00.000-05:00>Hell, we just got down with 8 years of documen...>Hell, we just got down with 8 years of documented abuses of power. I think my distrust is fairly well placed.<<br /><br />Lest we forget. GWB/Cheney weren't the first criminal team to head up the executive branch. True criminal abuse predates the last 8 years by a long shot.<br /><br />Watergate, for instance, was a very prominent test of the constitutional status of executive power, that was back in the early 70's. <br /><br />The truly lavish and crippling deficit spending on wars and useless weaponry began with the Reagan administration. Corporate welfare probably got its start before that, but certain began to accelerate under Reagan as well.<br />Further rises in these subsidies occured under the Bushes.<br /><br />Small government conservatives my ass ;)<br /><br />LS<br /><br />LSlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17901508236729383702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-35505549352511034002009-04-24T20:54:00.000-05:002009-04-24T20:54:00.000-05:00@Atheistunderthemask
Referring to Ayn Rand. Hist...@Atheistunderthemask<br /><br />Referring to Ayn Rand. Historic promoter of selfishness.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677092968714424939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-47888911947047688602009-04-24T20:47:00.000-05:002009-04-24T20:47:00.000-05:00Hey Kazim, what does Randian mean, or I suppose, w...Hey Kazim, what does Randian mean, or I suppose, who does it refer to?AtheistUnderMaskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15835169901704552498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33241741.post-34862177387816613542009-04-24T20:46:00.000-05:002009-04-24T20:46:00.000-05:00I don't have to since being form New Jersey and sp...I don't have to since being form New Jersey and speaking as such disqualifies me...but I decided to do some quote mining. Now note these are out of context and I'm sure since Limbaugh is a saint are perfectly innocent<br /><br />" I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark."<br /><br />“Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream.”<br /><br />“The most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you cut it down”<br /><br />“Women were doing quite well in this country before feminism came along”<br /><br />“When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it's an invitation”<br /><br />“If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people - I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs, let the kinds of jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do - let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work”<br /><br />Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.<br /><br /> * Response to a black caller he was having a hard time understanding in the 1970s when he worked under the name "Jeff Christie" on a top-40 music program in Pittsburgh, as quoted in Newsday (8 October 1990<br /><br />They're 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?<br /><br /> * Of African-Americans, as quoted in "Limbaugh Brings Baggage with his ESPN Blabber<br /><br />As I said yesterday, truce is an old Arabic word. Goes way, way back in Islamic-Arabic culture, and it means, "We will get you later." <br /><br />He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act... This is really shameless of Michael J Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting. "<br /><br />,....Yeah nice guy. Not at all bigoted.Inghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677092968714424939noreply@blogger.com